So clichys goes.

[Coney]

Surely them being in the last year of their contracts is the main reason the prices are relatively low.

True in the case of Nasri. The market value of a player is not based on what someone payed for someone else a year ago. It is what the market is prepared to pay now which is influenced by the economics of the clubs, the potential new 'fair play' rules, the length of contract remaining, how much the buying teams need exactly that kind of player to complete their kind of setup, etc. etc.

It might well be that Cesc has a maximum price of 35M. We might want more but if no bugger will pay it then saying he is worth 50 million is meaningless. For us, it is a question of whether 35, 40 or whatever will enable us to sort it out once and for all, and to have enough money to buy who we want. I presume some of the clubs with players Wenger wants are holding for what they can get - they want to get an idea of how much we have in the pot and how much we will get for Cesc / Nasri so they can work out at what price they should settle.

Like I keep saying, the transfer window shit just fucks things up. Without a window deadline, people would just deal with one player here and there as needed and this complex crap would go away.

[RomfordPele]

lolz.

It's amusing how people on here spend all summer whining about how shit our players are, calling them all the names under the sun, and then turn around and moan about disloyalty when they think about pissing off.

Nah, from my perspective, I generally moan about players when I don't feel they were playing 100%. You can have crap players who you learn to love because they try hard and they care about the club (eg Grimandi). I'm moaning more about people like Nasri who has his name chanted every week and is now pretty much swerving his car off the road because £92k is beneath him.

Clichy, to be fair, was probably one of the few 100%ers so maybe I take back my comment on him, but there is still a very understandable frustration that beneath the surface ALL of these guys are mercenaries on the take. No connection to the fans and no feel for the club. All of them steeling themselves for the next big payday.

The conduct at the N. London derbies - hugging and making kissy-faces at our biggest rivals after they've thrown away two goal leads - is all the indication you need of that. As I say, much as I adore Arsenal, it's hard to feel much love for a bunch of players like this.

[Grebbo]

lolz.

It's amusing how people on here spend all summer whining about how shit our players are, calling them all the names under the sun, and then turn around and moan about disloyalty when they think about pissing off.

Do you think Clichy reads Goonersweb then??

Clichy has no reason to be disloyal. He's bloody lucky to have been playing at the top level for so long. He didn't get abuse - his name was sung at every game.

Eboue and Bendtner can be disloyal as it's pretty obvious that the fans don't like them.

Clichy is a cunt.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Do you think Clichy reads Goonersweb then??

Clichy has no reason to be disloyal. He's bloody lucky to have been playing at the top level for so long. He didn't get abuse - his name was sung at every game.

Eboue and Bendtner can be disloyal as it's pretty obvious that the fans don't like them.

Clichy is a cunt.

How is he being disloyal exactly?

We knew he wanted to leave, and weve been touting him round. Weve now opened talks with Citeh, so does that mean the club is disloyal too?

[Letters]

Do you think Clichy reads Goonersweb then??

Clichy has no reason to be disloyal. He's bloody lucky to have been playing at the top level for so long. He didn't get abuse - his name was sung at every game.

Eboue and Bendtner can be disloyal as it's pretty obvious that the fans don't like them.

Clichy is a cunt.

Don't see how whether he reads GW is in any way relevant. Just lolling at the hypocricy of people who spend all season saying how crap our players are and then splutter with rage at how 'disloyal' they are for leaving. If people think they're that bad they'd surely be glad if they leave.

I presume you've never changed jobs and never plan to if you get what you feel is a better offer by the way....

[Grebbo]

I think he's shit and am glad we're selling him.

I get the whole 'better your career' argument. City is a step up with bigger wages - fine.

All I'm saying is if ever there was a case of one of our players owing us something then it's Clichy. We gave him his chance and supported him. Wenger openly stated that he wants to keep him.

[Grebbo]

Actually, that is not as ridiculous as it sounds. I know all the cynical shit about players only wanting money and all that. But imagine if you were an Arsenal player. Would you not sometimes wonder what fans think and scan message boards. I don't for one moment imagine that the entire Arsenal squad are all GW members but certainly most of them seem to use the internet, so the possibility that some of them might take a glance now and again is not so ridiculous.

Well he obviously doesn't read manc message boards cos they don't want him either!

[LDG]

Do you think Clichy reads Goonersweb then??

Justin Hoyte was on GW for a while.

[GP]

Actually, that is not as ridiculous as it sounds. I know all the cynical shit about players only wanting money and all that. But imagine if you were an Arsenal player. Would you not sometimes wonder what fans think and scan message boards. I don't for one moment imagine that the entire Arsenal squad are all GW members but certainly most of them seem to use the internet, so the possibility that some of them might take a glance now and again is not so ridiculous.

Nah, they'd use the good message boards.

[Coney]