Clichy has left. And Nasri in talks with Citeh.

[selassie]

Well look what happened after the Invincibles...

Fair enough to wait and see - not like we have much choice. But I'm looking at a current picture that's wider than the merits of individual players. It can't be denied that there is the smell of something a bit rotten about the club. One thing that you can always depend on - and that is that agents/press whores can smell weakness like sharks smell blood - and that's what's going on with us ATM.

We talk about replacing players and systems as though its like buying a new car - but building new teams is both a difficult and a painstaking process. There's no way that the guts can be ripped out of our team and we can bounce back next season like nothing's happened. It took Wenger 5 years to realise that project youth had failed. Its not like he's going to roar back with the Invincibles Mk 11, and the smart money says that any replacements will be 'project' players rather than EPL seasoned superstars.

So sure, we wait. But for me the prognosis is not the most promising one.

Especially the part I've highlighted, if Cesc, Clichy & Nasri leave I cannot see how folks on here can be happy unless we replace them with established quality, preferably PL based players.

[selassie]

Coney, there arent two months to complete the team. There is no way in hell we can make the amount of changes we need to while following the traditional formula (for us) of waiting right up to the brink of the transfer windows closure. If we do that, then this season is over before it starts.

We need the players bedding in right from the start of preseason training.

Too right.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

How do i feel about them all leaving.

They can all fuck off as far as im concerned.

Not sure why they are all sulking or maonaing as if they never had a part to play in out shit years if shitness.

IF aw and thats a bif if AW pulls his finger out and buys world class replacements then these chumps won't be missed.

[Coney]

Coney, there arent two months to complete the team. There is no way in hell we can make the amount of changes we need to while following the traditional formula (for us) of waiting right up to the brink of the transfer windows closure. If we do that, then this season is over before it starts.

We need the players bedding in right from the start of preseason training.

I agree that we should really try and get it all sorted now and I would be in favour of blowing a few more million to force the issue. I hope that what will happen is that most of our transfers will be completed in the next few weeks and that into August we will just be finishing the odd player transfer.

Of course, other teams are in the same boat. I am sure that Barca, manu, citeh, etc would all like to have things sorted out before the season begins. Although the final deadline is the end of August, I guess we and other clubs have an effective deadline well before that and that will be the trigger of the transfers. As I said, if we were to 'crack' first and accept the hit of a few million to get the thing sorted now, I'd have no problem with that. It would mean accepting a lesser offer for people like Cesc than some of the posters here would like but if that is what it takes to make it all come together, then we should bite the bullet.

[Boss]

Quite a few naive lads on here.

People are pissed off now because every year the same nonsense is spouted by the delusional ones on here ('don't worry, Vieira's not going to leave and if he does I'm sure we'll replace him with quality etc etc') and every year Wenger does the same thing, either doesn't sign anyone and promotes from within or signs projects late in the campaign and we don't see the best of them until two months in (at which point they end up injured for a few months).

Wenger doesn't have the intelligence to change, and he's not going to sign any star players (which is what is needed) this summer. Don't expect us to challenge for the title until he leaves.

[Kano]

when cole left, no one cried as we all thought clichy was a good enough replacement. when hleb left, we got in nasri. no reason to think he wont do the same again, unless you let a warped perception ruin perspective

[Ollie the Optimist]

('don't worry, Vieira's not going to leave and if he does I'm sure we'll replace him with quality etc etc')

if you are gonna have a go at wenger, at least use a decent example. he replaced him with cesc. oh right i see, that was shit from wenger

[Flavs]

apparently Nasri turned down a £92,000 a week 4 year contract as he thinks he is worth more. Sorry mate but as someone who turns up in maybe 45% of games dont let the door hit you on the way out.

I am sadder about Clichy who i always liked, not the best player but certainly has the work rate we need in the team

[Ollie the Optimist]

apparently Nasri turned down a £92,000 a week 4 year contract as he thinks he is worth more. Sorry mate but as someone who turns up in maybe 45% of games dont let the door hit you on the way out.

I am sadder about Clichy who i always liked, not the best player but certainly has the work rate we need in the team

Clichy never has said a bad word, has never given anything less then 100%. yes he fucks up but at least we know that when he is on hte pitch he will sprint his bollocks off from first minute to the last

[Boss]

if you are gonna have a go at wenger, at least use a decent example. he replaced him with cesc. oh right i see, that was shit from wenger

Cesc shouldn't have been starting games for us at 16. We suffered while he developed.

You probably don't remember how shocking we were in the league in 2005-06, which was the season Fabregas became a starter for us and only lasagne prevented us from chucking away fourth to Spurs.