Those are two replacement signings. Not signings to make us stronger. That's pretty obvious now. Giroud was signed during the Euros after RVP had the talks and told Wenger and Gaz that he won't sign. That's when we sign a striker.Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
Hes right. Our medical staff are shit. Just look at the ridiculous amount of long-term injuries we have had. And he's right about our transfer policy which even the most loyal fans will admit is in tatters now. I just dont think he has done anything wrong. He is entitled to leave and felt it best to come out with a statement. Money is obviously a consideration but he wants to win things.
This club has no ambition, as Arsene Wenger put it last summer, you can't lose two of your best players in one summer and still be considered a big club.
We sell our best players, success boils down to putting a good enough group of players together and spending where necessary, one or two players aren't going to win you trophies by themselves and thus the buck stops with the manager (and the board to some extent for accepting it).
We've been guilty of under investment for years, when we do lose our top players we look to replace them with cheaper alternatives rather than looking to replace them for top quality. We got 7 years without a tin pot trophy and preach about 4th place as if it's some sort of holy grail and expect players to stay and help us when we don't help ourselves by strenghtening, despite constant calls from for this inside the squad.
All over Europe we're percived jokingly as the club that place nice football (debatable these days) but always fails when it matters, the better players now look at the club and are for the most part not interested in signing as they're aware we don't invest, don't win and don't have any world beaters they'd want to play alongside.
Pretty much every summer now we've seen one more of our top players leave, this doesn't send out a good message to potential signings about the ambitions of the club, you want your best players to stay then give them a reason to stay....don't expect them to sit around for wasting their career whilst make excuses about how young your team is, how other teams are spending so it's impossible to compete.
There's only so long a player is going to believe the pipedream the manager harps on about, our best kids (from the much heralded youth policy) have left (after losing faith) and many of the other are nowhere to be seen having failed to hit the heights they were suppose to. As for the great team spirit and togetherness we always hear about, it doesn't exist...to have great team spirit a group of players has to believe in the policy and the direction of the club, it clear next to noone does.
Exactly - just what i said before on here. He is 29 and wants to win something. Lets be honest - are we ever gonna win the league again under Wenger or the cl for that matter.Never.
Quite entertaining on here how players are treated as gods while they're here and it suddenly becomes about money when they leave.
Fabregas, Nasri, Henry, Adebayor, Clichy all won trophies after they left us, sure in some cases (Adebayor) it was about the money but for the others all didn't see the club competing for trophies. It's not a coincidence that our top players leave every year.
If you want to pick out and debate/argue against a post, feel free to do so. Making generic (not to mention untrue - no significant portion of fans thought Henry, Clichy or Fabregas were leaving for money) comments like this is stupid.
Quite entertaining on here how players are treated as gods while they're here and it suddenly becomes about money when they leave.
Fabregas, Nasri, Henry, Adebayor, Clichy all won trophies after they left us, sure in some cases (Adebayor) it was about the money but for the others all didn't see the club competing for trophies. It's not a coincidence that our top players leave every year.
We carried him for 7 out of 8 seasons. He has one good season and then he's off, modern footballer in a nutshell. What gets me is everytime one of them leaves, we get the whole 'I love Arsenal blah blah blah!' ... no you dont, now just fuck off.
Dont worry, Gazidis will sort it out.....
Pretty much, we've been doing the same for years......the same thing happens every season with the club, on and off the pitch.
Quite entertaining on here how players are treated as gods while they're here and it suddenly becomes about money when they leave.
Fabregas, Nasri, Henry, Adebayor, Clichy all won trophies after they left us, sure in some cases (Adebayor) it was about the money but for the others all didn't see the club competing for trophies. It's not a coincidence that our top players leave every year.
Noone can tell me Podolski and Giroud were signed to convince RVP to stay, why would we sign 2 strikers if we have RVP...there's other areas of the team that needed investment, one striker to share the load with RVP would have been adequate.
We knew exactly what was going to happen, PHW even came out to the press that we weren't going to break the bank, that was hardly a positive sign, saying it during negotiations is one thing but telling the press...come on.
Citing money is a copout and another way of rendering the club blameless for it's own failings.
Well we thought Clichy left for money but ure probably right about the other two.
with the strikers comment, that is just stupid. you cnat win with just two strikers so thats just crap wumming.
and the phw comment is fair, why should we pay stupid money for a player? he just said he wont offer crazy money but will offer decent money.
With Van Persie I had a slight feeling he'd stay, his parents seemed pretty vocal in him staying, his hot wife also, but I guess it all came down to him, and that he want's to win something in his career. I mean if you look at his honours list, he won the Uefa Cup with Feyenoord when he was pretty young, and with us he only won the fa cup (and a shitty shield) in 8 years. Who can blame him ? We will not win a major trophy in the next 5 years at the rate we're at, and he'll be past it by then.
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