Good Bye RVP!

[V-Pig]

I get the sense that this togetherness is about to be dealt a death blow. RVP was a big part of that and you could see it in the way he lead as a captain and how the players responded to him. Theo is next to leave, an issue that we haven't even touched on yet and having two of our best performers from last season leave in another summer window is really going to mess with the squad. Certain players are going to be pissed off and their going to be questioning our ambition next...wash and repeat. It's downward spiral because we keep chipping away at what we're building and it's two steps back every bloody season.

To counter the negative, the club has to bring in two or three quality players if RVP and Theo leave this summer. We can't go into next season with these departures. It's too bloody negative and we'll have a repeat of the last season where nobody felt like playing and we looked flat. What pisses me off is the fact that we could all see this coming ages ago but the club sat back and did nothing. When RVP had two years left on his contract and we had the hoopla with Nasri and Cesc, I said there is no way RVP and Theo are going to sign new deals after this summer. We needed a big season to convince them to stay and we should have showed more ambition in the January transfer window. We didn't and we're not learning the lesson.

Can't help but feel I'd care more if this wasn't Walnutt. I'd be fine with him leaving. Boyish good looks and polite enthusiasm can only go so far.

[Xhaka Can’t]

That last statement shows the hypocrisy of this whole affair. We can't talk about showing loyalty when we're considering throwing players on the scrap heap because of their age and injury record. If we're thinking about how much we can get out of him, he's thinking along the same lines and has every right to want out after his contract has ended.

I don't dispute that. But when you are looking to commit millions of pounds of funds to a player you have to consider that - it would be ridiculous not to.

Likewise, he is entitled to walk away at the end of a contract.

[Power n Glory]

Can't help but feel I'd care more if this wasn't Walnutt. I'd be fine with him leaving. Boyish good looks and polite enthusiasm can only go so far.

You'd be fine, but the team morale won't. That's the point I was making. Every player is replaceable and RVP was never going to have another season like he had last season, but the point is, we've lost another first team player, our captain, again! It's another blow to the club and each time we lose first team players like this it sows doubt in the mind of the current players we still have playing for us. How do the rest of the team feel about this? It's like passing on an STD every season because we keep getting f***ed over!

[V-Pig]

You'd be fine, but the team morale won't. That's the point I was making. Every player is replaceable and RVP was never going to have another season like he had last season, but the point is, we've lost another first team player, our captain, again! It's another blow to the club and each time we lose first team players like this it sows doubt in the mind of the current players we still have playing for us. How do the rest of the team feel about this? It's like passing on an STD every season because we keep getting f***ed over!

They just need a new focus point. RVP was clearly a big character, but there's still Vermaelen, Song, Sagna, Sneezey, Wilshere and Arteta. All with a good mixture of experience/confidence/anger/loyalty/presence. The team will be fine. Walcott isn't a key player. Look at Eboue's comments about him after he'd left. RVP will hit them, though less because of the introduction of a player of such proven class like Podolski. But Walcott. He's not a big personality and he's not a great player.

[BOBN]

Good luck at a team which isn't completely moulded around you and at which you're not Jesus. How does that work out in the Dutch team?

hes a top top CF in the middle of 3 forwards (433). he flatters to deceive on the left, on the right, in the hole and in a 2. wenger finally found his best and only position. it wasnt just about injuries, he was stuggling to find a role he was good at (the "new bergkamp" stuff was bollocks). a new club may expect him to fill one of these other roles and if that happens id expect him to struggle. but keep him in the middle of a 3 and he should do ok.

[Kano]

But Walcott. He's not a big personality and he's not a great player.

lose theo along with rvp right now and we move back to the beginning of last summer.

[Power n Glory]

They just need a new focus point. RVP was clearly a big character, but there's still Vermaelen, Song, Sagna, Sneezey, Wilshere and Arteta. All with a good mixture of experience/confidence/anger/loyalty/presence. The team will be fine. Walcott isn't a key player. Look at Eboue's comments about him after he'd left. RVP will hit them, though less because of the introduction of a player of such proven class like Podolski. But Walcott. He's not a big personality and he's not a great player.

You don't get it do you. You don't rate Theo as a player...whatever. But he was still a second highest scorer behind RVP and I think third with the assists. We lost RVP and Theo in one season and it shows zero ambition on our part.

As for the players you mentioned. How do you think it will affect them? Song hasn't signed a new deal yet and I think he hasn't got long left on his contract. Sagna doesn't say shit and is always silent. Has no relationship with the fans what so ever, who knows what's going on with him and I wouldn't be surprised if he's looking for the exit. He's professional but don't mistake that for loyalty to the club. Wilshere is crocked and who knows what he's going to be like next season and Arteta is old and not the future of this club. Plus, his assist and goal record was shit. We're starting again from square one. The three players that had any cohesion on attack were Song, Theo and RVP. You can see it in the goal and assist stats. Losing two out of the three will be damaging just like how our fluid play was damaged by Cesc and Nasri's departure. We'll survive, but we're starting all over again.

[Power n Glory]

lose theo along with rvp right now and we move back to the beginning of last summer.

Somebody gets it!

[V-Pig]

Yet what more could AW do? He started off this summer by signing one giant player and one highly-rated player. RVP had clearly made up his mind a few months ago. Wenger's shown some intent despite the Euros interfering. If RVP leaves, it's not because of this year's transfer dealings.

[Xhaka Can’t]

lose theo along with rvp right now and we move back to the beginning of last summer.

Well I think that is exactly where we are heading, with the exception of signing a couple of players and giving them time to adjust to the system. We have a system don't we?

Ordinarily I would not be bothered about the Theo situation, but we need some continuity and he has shown with greater consistency what he can do. It would provide us with some positive light within the shitcloud within which we are currently engulfed if we managed to agree terms with him.