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Thread: Good Bye RVP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    That's not the point I'm making. You and few others seem to be under the impression that club tried to appease RVP with these two signings when they're replacement players and not additions. It's not progress and building on what we have which is why he's leaving.
    No I didn't mean that. I said he'd probably made up his mind a few months ago, in which case these signings weren't designed to appease him. But these signings can appease those other people who are wavering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    That's not the point I'm making. You and few others seem to be under the impression that club tried to appease RVP with these two signings when they're replacement players and not additions. It's not progress and building on what we have which is why he's leaving.
    If Van Persie wants to stay now they would be additions, wouldn't they? If Wenger didn't want RVP to stay he wouldn't have made those guilt-trip comments a few days ago. The club wants Van Persie to stay (even after these two signings). That much is clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    More I think about this, the more I feel we should make him play out his contract. We have to stop getting bullied around and make a statement. I did understand PnG's earlier point that working with a disinterested co-worker who knows he's off is not ideal. I do understand that. But I really don't think Van Persie will give anything less than 100% - not because it's in the club's interest...he has made abundantly clear he doesn't care about causing conflict at the club, but because it's in Robin's interest to pull off another 25+ goal season.
    It's not a good idea. RVP won't want to cause conflict but his presence will cause a problem. For starters, we'd have to strip him of the armband and give it to somebody else. He might not have a problem with it, but some of the other players might. We could have a situation where we still have players looking to RVP for advice and inspiration when he's not even captain. That could be a problem.

    Or we keep him as captain and certain players have a problem with it. How can RVP lead by example or bollock players when he's not committed to the cause. That could be an issue.

    Also, misery loves company. If Song or a few others are pissed about our transfer policy or the way their contract talks are going, they might just gravitate towards RVP and start bitching about the club private. He doesn't have to say or do anything. He's just there and represents the disillusioned Arsenal player. It doesn't have to be done in the open, but when cliques are formed, you can sort of tell what certain people think just by who they hang with. You can see it most working environments on lunches. The ass lickers and forever enthusiastic don't sit or go for lunch with the moaners and those hunting for new jobs. I see no point in letting him stay for another season. Giroud and Poldoski need to form a relationship with the other players as soon as possible. No point in delaying that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    That's not the point I'm making. You and few others seem to be under the impression that club tried to appease RVP with these two signings when they're replacement players and not additions. It's not progress and building on what we have which is why he's leaving.
    Of course they were additions, he is still an arsenal player and the club and wenger have openly stated more than once that they want him to stay, so the plan was to buy these two to play alongside rvp not to replace him.

    Rvp's has had his head turned by money, end of.

    Only the truly gullible would believe its to win trophies.

    They guy is nearly 30 and he knows that means he has weaker bargaining power. Citeh have offered him a ridiculous contract of a quarter of a million a week for 4 years, he must be fucking laughing himself to sleep every night at the moment. Plus he will have less work to do to actually win trophies as he will have plenty of other top players around him to come on and help out.

    Just another player interested in joining in with the football fantasy world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V-Pig View Post
    Could be a great gamble. Make him play. Be great. Make him realise how wrong he was and beg to stay to see out the remainder of his contract.

    Ah, we can dream.
    Yeh, and maybe win a trophy or 2 and see him beg to stay at the end of next season.



    Then make him wait a month or so, then release a statement on the club website, saying how we like him as a player but we don't see him on our plans anymore and he can fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Of course they were additions, he is still an arsenal player and the club and wenger have openly stated more than once that they want him to stay, so the plan was to buy these two to play alongside rvp not to replace him.

    Rvp's has had his head turned by money, end of.

    Only the truly gullible would believe its to win trophies.

    They guy is nearly 30 and he knows that means he has weaker bargaining power. Citeh have offered him a ridiculous contract of a quarter of a million a week for 4 years, he must be fucking laughing himself to sleep every night at the moment. Plus he will have less work to do to actually win trophies as he will have plenty of other top players around him to come on and help out.

    Just another player interested in joining in with the football fantasy world.
    BS. Giroud is slow, he's can't play on the flanks in 4-3-3, he's a central player and we never spend over £10m for a player at that age to sit on the bench. Never.

    If they're additions, then we'll buy another striker and another winger if we lose Theo. but we won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    More I think about this, the more I feel we should make him play out his contract. We have to stop getting bullied around and make a statement. I did understand PnG's earlier point that working with a disinterested co-worker who knows he's off is not ideal. I do understand that. But I really don't think Van Persie will give anything less than 100% - not because it's in the club's interest...he has made abundantly clear he doesn't care about causing conflict at the club, but because it's in Robin's interest to pull off another 25+ goal season.
    Except he has caused 100% conflict at the club with his statement.

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    yep, giroud was always the replacement. two strikers who can play in only one position, no brainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    BS. Giroud is slow, he's can't play on the flanks in 4-3-3, he's a central player and we never spend over £10m for a player at that age to sit on the bench. Never.

    If they're additions, then we'll buy another striker and another winger if we lose Theo. but we won't.
    So even giroud coming out and saying that he didn't join to replace rvp but to play alongside him is BS?

    Wenger and the club stating at least twice now to the press that they want him to sign a new contract and stay is BS?

    Ok. You seem to know everything that has happened in the club anyway as your previous posts in this thread are stated as if they are fact, so you must be right.

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