I understand the anger - feel the same myself, but letting a player rot on the sidelines would be poisonous and certainly not the best move for the Club.
I understand the anger - feel the same myself, but letting a player rot on the sidelines would be poisonous and certainly not the best move for the Club.
We were never going to get big money for him in any case with a year left, it was pretty clear to many that he wasn't going to sign, Juve offered as little as 8 million that should have given us an idea of how other clubs see it.
So he came out and said he won't sign, big deal, too much secrecy at the club and it's about time someone was open for once, don't blame him at all. I'm glad he's slammed the direction of the club, because it needed to be done....this has been going on for far too long.
He's entitled to say what he wants at the end of the day, he's also entitled no to re-sign and for his own reasons (good ones IMO) he isn't going to. I've long questioned the ambition of this club and now we have it in a nutshell, we're a feeder club which brings through kids and sells them on. We're never going to seriously challenge or win trophies under the current system as our priority is profits.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...before-anotherJust as Arsene Wenger's plans seemed to be coming together, Robin van Persie's decision to leave Arsenal has thrown them back into disarray.
If there are any positives to be taken out of the Dutchman's revelation, it is that the Gunners have already secured the signatures of Lukas Podolski and Olivier Giroud. Wenger will have been hoping, of course, to field his new attacking stars alongside Van Persie, but now the duo face the pressure of having to immediately fill the void.
The two signings make the statement released by Van Persie, in which he announced his decision, all the more puzzling; Wenger and Ivan Gazidis, he claims, do not share the same ambitions regarding the direction in which the club is headed, despite the new arrivals.
Yann M'Vila, in addition, has been linked to the club all summer. Short of a Manchester City-style spending spree, which was never a realistic expectation, it is difficult to see what else the Gunners could have done to persuade their captain to stay.
Arsenal, with Van Persie, looked a stronger proposition than they had done in a long time. Wojciech Szczesny finally seemed to have provided a solution in goal, while Laurent Koscielny and Thomas Vermaelen have formed an impressive partnership in front of him.
The return of Jack Wilshere was to be looked forward to, although that now is also in doubt.
Most would not have begrudged Van Persie's wish to leave Arsenal in pursuit of trophies – at the age of 28, his time is running out and he carried the Gunners on his back last season.
But to announce in early July - just as clubs return for pre-season training - that Wenger is not moving the club forward quickly enough despite his concerted efforts to strengthen the squad does no favours to himself or to the club he professes to love.
Now, once again, Arsenal's summer has been thrown into disarray. Failure to reinvest the money made from Van Persie's probable sale – and the wise decision for Arsenal would be to cash in on him while they can – will only result in a backlash similar to the one suffered after the departure of Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri last summer.
Wenger needs to spend to appease not only supporters but the rest of his squad, but when he has departed from his prudent approach to the transfer market, the results have not always been successful. Per Mertesacker, Andre Santos, Park Chu-Young and Mikel Arteta were last-minute additions ahead of the 2011-12 campaign; only one worked out.
Fabregas, Nasri and now Van Persie – who next? For the second consecutive summer, just as Arsenal seemed to be getting back on the right track, their fortunes have suffered another devastating blow.
Lazy piece
worked out ok for spurs with modric last seasonOriginally Posted by GB.
I havent read the full thread but im going to add my two cents for what its worth. What can I say about Arsenal these days that hasnt already been said about Afganistan, it looks bombed out and depleted!!!
RVP is just the latest in a long line of players to leave Arsenal because they felt their ambitions were better met elsewhere. Anelka, Overmars, Petit, Cole, Flamini, Henry, Adebayor, Cesc, Nasri, now Van Persie. Vieira nearly as well to Madrid, but he then decided to stay only for Arsene to ship him off to Juve quickly a couple years later (how's that for loyalty?). Each one of these guys had plenty to give but they all left--not citing money or playing time, but because they wanted the chance to win trophies which they felt was more likely elsewhere.
Everyone always write it off--Anelka was just a petulant child, Cole and Nasri money grubbing aholes, Henry was just getting too old, Cesc wanted to go home etc. It was easy to do when Wenger was still grooming world class players. But there isn't any more at Arsenal right now, and at some point you got to stand back and just realize something is seriously wrong here. Every player praises Wenger as they walk out the door (loveable father figure that I'm sure he is), but ultimately none of his stars stay on board for him. And I don't think it's purely about money for RVP--he was the captain, he's said repeatedly that he wants to stay if the team was competitive at the highest level. Really I thought this was a slam-dunk to get him to stay on if Arsenal was seriously about being a top club. Clearly, that's just not the case.
Arsene Wenger out -And the board and owners with him. For those who will defend Wenger in all of this - he sits back and collects 6million to watch this happen. He is just as bad as the rest of them and in NOO way should he be excused.
Time for Usamov or whatever the feck his name is.
He rotted on the sidelines?
But Usmanov wants Wenger managing the Club and always praises him.
Should he sell up and go as well?
well, in the team, which is where rvp would if he stayed.
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amazingly some good points made in the mail:
Wenger, to his credit, investigated (signing van der vaart after rvp asked about signing him), but decided against making a move. Case closed. Apparently not. Van Persie has maintained his Fantasy Football attitude ever since.
This summer he is unimpressed with the signings of a 26-year-old German international boasting more than 100 caps, one of Europe’s brightest young centre-forwards, not to mention the emergence of Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain as full international.
The irony, of course, is that Van Persie was himself a signing much like Chamberlain. Did the capture of 21-year-old with a questionable attitude from Holland convince Patrick Vieira et al of the club’s ambition? If it didn’t, we didn’t hear about it publicly.
And that is the key point. Van Persie wants out. Fine. Yet, unlike Cesc Fabregas who kept his counsel while the club toyed with his heart over his move home to Barcelona a year ago, the new captain has driven a wedge between he and the club who stood by him through a wretched injury record and hopeless runs of form. He owed them more five paragraphs.
Victoria concordia crescit, the club slogan. Victory through harmony. Van Persie hasn’t been singing from the same hymnsheet for several years.
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That's a thing that a lot of people seem to miss. Those who think David Dein is more realistic (and isn't stuck in the dark-ages, understands the way football is going etc.) have to also acknowledge that he thinks Wenger is a top class manager who has had his hands tied. Similarly Usmanov says in the open letter that Wenger isn't being allowed to fulfil his potential. If you want a manager change, you're not going to get one no matter who is in charge.
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