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Thread: Good Bye RVP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    Yeah, the guy who was part of a cabal that profited from the Club to the tune of half a billion pounds was spot on when he talked of player greed.
    "knob at times"

    and

    No, we can't pay £250k per week.

    and

    Yes, he is a greedy ****. As are the rest of the board.

    They all are.

    Filth.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    I know people like to bash PHW, but I don't see a lot wrong with what he's said there.

    'If x offer £250k a week we can't match it'

    Wow, I'm surprised RVP didn't sue for that.

    Well, did he want to leave just for the money? Or was it for a chance of a trophy? And is that any different from other players who have left overall.

    If we had not been haemoraging players over the last few years - if RvP had been the only player in this situation then I'd be looking at him a lot more critically. However, since it is part of a general trend, I think we should see this in the same light. Even if we are really going to buy the players we need to make a serious title challenge (or any trophy challenge, come to that), he and the others are still in the position that they can't be sure, the same as we can't either. Until we actually win something and mount a serious title challenge, this is the kind of story that going to run and run, again and again.

    And until we show a real challenge for the title, I am not going to blame players who want to move to win a trophy at a club that is showing that kind of intent.

    As far as the money is concerned for players in general, how much of the wage demand is for the actually dosh itself as against how much is it the amount of money compared to other players' income as an indication of the player's status in the rankings. Once you are getting past 50k a week, does the amount of money in the bank actually matter as you can pretty well afford anything you want 100 times over. Surely it is more to do with your relative position as a player than the actual cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    Yeah, the guy who was part of a cabal that profited from the Club to the tune of half a billion pounds was spot on when he talked of player greed.
    Right on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    No.

    Otherwise he'd be off to Celtic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    No.

    Otherwise he'd be off to Celtic.
    The Scottish League Title wasn't particularly worth much before the Rangers debacle, now it'll be worth even less in terms of prestige. Certainly in comparison to the Premier League/La Liga trophies, Champions League etc.

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    Jesus wept.

    City wouldn't be anywhere without money.

    They can challenge for trophies, BECAUSE they can pay higher wages than everyone else.

    What do higher wages do?

    Attract players.

    RVP is going for trophies? Bullshit.

    If he signs for city. It's about money, nothing else.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping View Post
    Sorry mate but I disagree totally. RVP made his statement because he wants to agitate a move away from the club, probably because he's been tapped up with a mega offer from Citeh, and neither wants to lose money (which he would do if he put in a formal transfer request), nor be held to the fial year of his contract. The idea that its in 'revenge' for anything the Chairman said is bollocks, IMO. If revenge was his motivation he'd have come clean on a decision he clearly made some time ago, before now.

    How is that bollocks and why are you in total disagreement? Of course he wants to move and that's the purpose of the statement. I'm not suggesting that it's not. The question is, why has he come out and given both barrels to the club in this way?

    Tapping up....that's speculation and bollocks. It doesn't take a genius to work out how much he'd earn if Man City were interested in signing him and let's face it, if anyone of our players were linked with Man City, we'd all assume they'd be on megabucks and compare what their top stars earn. RVP hasn't all of sudden had his head turned either. He's been delaying contract talks for the whole season. He doesn't want to be here and it's not as if he has it so sweet here that it takes the big bucks of Man City to get his attention.

    If revenge was his motivation he'd have come clean on a decision he clearly made some time ago, before now.
    Did you read my post properly because you're missing the point. There was a gagging order on him during the Euros, the club said we'd make an announcement when the tournament was over but we were still talking about keeping RVP even though he said he didn't want to stay. They were trying to drag the saga out right in front of the press saying that we're keeping him, we're not selling, the usual nonsense. That must have pissed him off because they said everything would become clear at the Euros but it looked like they weren't holding up their end of the deal. Why keep talking to the press about him staying if he's already told the club he's not? Yes, he wants to move and that's why the statement was so aggressive. Whether you agree or disagree with what he did is different matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    Jesus wept.

    City wouldn't be anywhere without money.

    They can challenge for trophies, BECAUSE they can pay higher wages than everyone else.

    What do higher wages do?

    Attract players.

    RVP is going for trophies? Bullshit.

    If he signs for city. It's about money, nothing else.
    Not necessarily. They indicated they were prepared to spend money to buy the players they needed for a challenge. Of course the top players demand the top wages - that is true in any market place - so if you want to challenge for the title quickly, you need a load of money to pay for the top players. However, now they have produced a top quality squad you can attract other players who want a trophy or two to go on the mantlepiece. But if you say, sure, we want you to play for us but we are only going to give you 50% of what the other guys are getting you would rightly be told to fuck off. So if RvP were to go to Citeh, I would expect him to be given a hefty salary even if that was not his prime motivation. And who is anyone to say they would turn it down under those circumstances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    If he signs for city. It's about money, nothing else.
    I don't think he's just leaving for money. Unless he does join City in which case...yeah.

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    We could sell to City and take a player in part ex. Now if only they had a proven goal scorer who could play in our formation that they wanted rid of...

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