Good Bye RVP!

[Kano]

i wouldn't mind abusing her

[Fist of Lehmann]

that statement made no difference to his bargaining position. When he didnt sign an extension before that day, it was already known what the deal was. His agent probably put it out there too.

To his bargaining position? I was talking about ours. Or lack thereof.

Here, let me explain it this way.

When a buying club knows you have to sell, your bargaining position is weak.
When a buying club knows you do not have to sell, your bargaining position is strong.
When a buying club is not sure, it's a game of cat and mouse. Hence the posturing about keeping him to the last year of his contract.

By releasing this statement Rvp has removed the element of doubt, he wants to burn bridges, making it effectively impossible to hold him to his contract. It's a calculated move to engineer his big payday. From the club's point of view - a dick move, but from vanPersie's, it's only business.

The only hope the club has of strengthening their position is to rope in as many buyers as possible.

[Kano]

agents would've known about the real situation even if RVP had not released a statement and arsenal had not done either.

something becoming 'official' on the net is usually a few steps behind what anyone on the inside will know.

the statement makes no difference to the price we would have and will generate

[IBK]

How is that bollocks and why are you in total disagreement? Of course he wants to move and that's the purpose of the statement. I'm not suggesting that it's not. The question is, why has he come out and given both barrels to the club in this way?

Tapping up....that's speculation and bollocks. It doesn't take a genius to work out how much he'd earn if Man City were interested in signing him and let's face it, if anyone of our players were linked with Man City, we'd all assume they'd be on megabucks and compare what their top stars earn. RVP hasn't all of sudden had his head turned either. He's been delaying contract talks for the whole season. He doesn't want to be here and it's not as if he has it so sweet here that it takes the big bucks of Man City to get his attention.



Did you read my post properly because you're missing the point. There was a gagging order on him during the Euros, the club said we'd make an announcement when the tournament was over but we were still talking about keeping RVP even though he said he didn't want to stay. They were trying to drag the saga out right in front of the press saying that we're keeping him, we're not selling, the usual nonsense. That must have pissed him off because they said everything would become clear at the Euros but it looked like they weren't holding up their end of the deal. Why keep talking to the press about him staying if he's already told the club he's not? Yes, he wants to move and that's why the statement was so aggressive. Whether you agree or disagree with what he did is different matter.

I'm in total disagreement that RVP made his statement in retalliation for anything PHW said, for 2 reasons. Firstly, what does it matter to the player (or more importantly his advisers who have advised him to say what he has said) what our chairman says? Its obvious that this is a lawyer's/agent's statement - not something deriving from the player himself. This is not a passionate reaction to perceived maltreatment. In fact its difficult to envisage a more cynical, dispassionate statement. It has been made to secure an advantage, not as a tit for tat measure.

Second, even if the above is wrong, and his motivation was (as you argue) simply to put the record straight why not leave it as clarifing that he does not wish to re-sign? Why put the boot in and damage the club - while at the same time making him look like a ****. You say there's no evidence of any tapping up. Well there is no evidence that there hasn;t been any tapping up - but its crystal clear that what has been said has been said with the express intention of making his position untenable, and preventing the club from holding him to the final year of his contract. Fuck all to do with what PHW has, or has not said, IMO.

[Fist of Lehmann]

RVP and his wife are being trolled on twitter:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/...s-are-trolled/

I expect you were front of the queue no?

As I recall, it was reported that his wife told him he should stay.

Uncalled for, that she get caught up in the spastic backlash (spazlash?)

[Letters]

To his bargaining position? I was talking about ours. Or lack thereof.

Here, let me explain it this way.

When a buying club knows you have to sell, your bargaining position is weak.
When a buying club knows you do not have to sell, your bargaining position is strong.
When a buying club is not sure, it's a game of cat and mouse. Hence the posturing about keeping him to the last year of his contract.

By releasing this statement Rvp has removed the element of doubt, he wants to burn bridges, making it effectively impossible to hold him to his contract. It's a calculated move to engineer his big payday. From the club's point of view - a dick move, but from vanPersie's, it's only business.

The only hope the club has of strengthening their position is to rope in as many buyers as possible.

We're in a slightly stronger position than we were with Cesc as we knew he'd only sign for one club. Everyone knew he'd only sign for one club. So we couldn't start a bidding war. On the other hand he was younger and worth more because of that. We're not going to get loads for him. I initially thought we should keep him because of that but having read other people's views about the damage that would do to the dressing room I've changed my mind. We should get rid and accept it's not going to be for silly money.

[Flavs]

I expect you were front of the queue no?

As I recall, it was reported that his wife told him he should stay.

Uncalled for, that she get caught up in the spastic backlash (spazlash?)

Retard rebound?

[Syn]

As I recall, it was reported that his wife told him he should stay.

Uncalled for, that she get caught up in the spastic backlash (spazlash?)

They're always after money. I'm sure she's fully after the Man City wages.

[Flavs]

Look its easy, he can earn £120k a week with us and not win anything or he can earn £200k a week at citeh and win everything

Also Nasri is his BFF so he will want to go shag him

[Fist of Lehmann]

agents would've known about the real situation even if RVP had not released a statement and arsenal had not done either.

something becoming 'official' on the net is usually a few steps behind what anyone on the inside will know.

the statement makes no difference to the price we would have and will generate

What's the difference between a statement in the public domain and his agent whoring him quietly to every club in the world?

The difference with a public statment is that he now cannot stay, not at least without a public climbdown.

"I cannot agree with the way this club is run, but I have decided to lower myself and take their money for one more year."

With the ego's involved on both sides, that is unlikely.