He mad because he fat and can't attract women.....Originally Posted by AKBapologist
He mad because he fat and can't attract women.....
Last edited by Mr.Singh; 04-07-2011 at 12:04 PM.
DV - this isn't a planned or managed clearout - this is the Club being forced into it by players who want to leave.
You are right in that many fans wanted a clearout, but I'm guessing when wishing for a clearout, Fabregas, Nasri and Clichy were hardly at the top of peoples' list. And if those names did appear on anyone's wishlist, I doubt ALL of them appeared on any one list.
I think the squad needs a massive overhaul, but I don't think the concern is necessarily for players leaving; It's about whether we spend big and actually push the boat out a bit. Losing all the players you mentioned would be terrible, but I doubt it'll happen. Clichy / Nas / Cesc look likely, but we're capable of replacing them. Not like for like, but then that's not what I want....I want some bollocks and backbone.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Cesc and Clichy were on mine.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
It's exciting in a way because I imagine the starting 11 for August will have a very different look to it. I'm just concerned at the fact our best players are disillusioned with the club, it doesn't speak volumes for Wenger and his vision at all. You have to wonder who's turn it will be next summer and the one after. It happens all the time.
Like I said, I doubt ALL would have appeared on one list.
at least two of those players were (Cesc and Clichy) were on fans lists and it shouldn't matter whether they are planned/mamaged departures or not. if you want someone gone, and they go, then job done surely? any effect on moral for the rest of the squad would be the same in either scenario.
Yeah. This was my hope. Taking the parts that work well, and adding some tough, direct and proven quality. I think this is all people want.
I still think Vinger is bullshitting, and business will be done. Perhaps he is waiting to see if he can tempt Nasri once they get back to training. Who knows. I do think we'll go some way to revamping the side. Question is, will it be enough?
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Time will tell I guess.
I just don't think Wenger is the draw he used to be.
Tbf, I think Clichy was on a few peoples and given the noises about Clichy have been circling (can noises do that?) for a while I'd say it's something the club has been considering as well. I think Cesc going is something that has been considered deeply from most angles by the club as it's a big issue, I feel sure we have plans for most scenarios involving him. Nasri, I think may well be an instance of someone forcing an exit but if he was really worth that much to us, we'd have paid him a little more and I'm sure he would have signed. That's beside your point though.
I'd rather keep Nasri and Cesc but when a team fails quite so obviously as we did last season with Nasri being as prominent as ever in that failure then it's difficult to see those guys going out of the door as a massive crisis. I'm afraid when you're agitating for massive changes and then agitating for less change within the space of a month then it makes it look like people ain't gonna be satisfied either way and I can't take that viewpoint particularly seriously, just the way I see it though as I'm sure others would think my tendency to defend players but also look at the benefits of losing them is sheer hypocrisy.
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