Super Super Quality Transfer Speculation & Shit

[Japan Shaking All Over]

It's about building a team for me rather than a short term fix, loan players aren't going to help you build a team. We've tried the shortcuts with signing cheap players and it doesn't work, we should focus on building a team from now on.

So far it's encouraging, but loan signings don't work for me unless they're players like Bennayoun that we realistically don't want to keep long term.

I do get what youre saying but same disagree a tadge. The reason is we are not in the moneybags position that some of the others are and our building requires more time. I know we have made mistakes with the way we build ie Wenger Youth etc but I do think we are showing encouraging signs.
Last year seemed like a glut of panic buys but they stopped a rot and even though we won nothing and finished far behind we stablised as a unit IMO

Wenger first two buys and Carzorla are strong intent buys, future buildong in mind, Sahin is a quality player who we cannot spunk a shed load on at this stage but could next year as we cant buy everyone in one go like the others.

Benny was never going to get the buy after option but we should ne looking at that with Sahin, someone said 20 mil, a good season with us and we will nab him for half that.
He is also only 23 or so whicj makes even more sense. I say loans for players who we can realistically see playing for us after the spell is over, makes sense as long as we have the buy option in place.
I say bring him in if it doesnt pan out. . .move on

[Master Splinter]

Wigan have beaten West Ham to the signing of Real Mallorca defender Ivan Ramis for an undisclosed fee.

The Hammers agreed a fee with the Spanish club for the 27-year-old at the weekend but he has instead joined their Premier League rivals Wigan on a three-year deal.

Ramis was wanted by Celtic in 2010 but a deal was never completed.

He becomes the Latics' second summer signing after the arrival of Aberdeen midfielder Fraser Fyvie.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19034356

West Ham .

Fat Sam .

Dave Whelan .

[Power n Glory]

I disagree, he's the weak link in our side. He's a good player, no question of his ability, but he is NOT a DM. The sooner Wenger stops treating him as such, the better, and the way wenger has been this offseason personnel wise, i do have faith in him to rectify this soon.

No way is he the weak link. He has his flaws and limitations but he's far from being the weak link.

[Marc Overmars]

Yeah Song is certainly not the weak link. Isn't it about time we stopped thinking about him as a DM anyway? For most of last season he was our only creative outlet in midfield. Of course he's still capable of doing the dirty work in midfield as well, so for my money that makes him an important member of the team.

Only thing I would say is that he needs some competition because he is prone to the odd brain fart.

[Flavs]

Yeah Song is certainly not the weak link. Isn't it about time we stopped thinking about him as a DM anyway? For most of last season he was our only creative outlet in midfield. Of course he's still capable of doing the dirty work in midfield as well, so for my money that makes him an important member of the team.

Only thing I would say is that he needs some competition because he is prone to the odd brain fart.

As a great man once said "Song isn't a defensive midfielder, he is just our most defensive midfielder"

[GP]

I disagree, he's the weak link in our side. He's a good player, no question of his ability, but he is NOT a DM. The sooner Wenger stops treating him as such, the better, and the way wenger has been this offseason personnel wise, i do have faith in him to rectify this soon.

That's right, he isn't a DM, which is why he hasn't been played as one for a long time.

Have you even been watching?

[Power n Glory]

He's turning into a decent box to box player. We need that in the squad. If Diaby was anywhere near Song's level we'd all be hailing him as the new Vieira. Would love to see Diaby and Song in the same squad this season because they're physically strong with good technical ability. We've missed having strength in the middle and if we have a trio of Song, Arteta and Diaby then we're on our way to having the right balance.

[Globalgunner]

Okay chaps. Now that SC is sorted and Sahin likely also. What about the back 4? and a DM. Who was it that once said "Arsene Wenger is a great manager, but he only ever buys attacking players" Yeah that`s right: Alex Ferguson. Come on Wenger.......just do it. Mvilla or Wayannma plus a LB pls as Gibbs is unreliable in more ways than one and Santos is a midfielder not LB.

Oh and hurry up getting rid of the crap clogging up the squad numbers.

[LDG]

That's right, he isn't a DM, which is why he hasn't been played as one for a long time.

Have you even been watching?

It's quite amazing really.

All season long AW and the players were going on about defending as a team, which for the most part, they did. More poorly on some occassions, granted, but mostly pretty well.

Song geos forward, Arteta drops in. Arteta goes forward, song drops in. Ramsey goes box to box. The wingers or fullbacks squeeze in.

Everything we're trying to do, is based on players being able to adjust to a situation. Not someone being in that position already.

[Flavs]

Okay chaps. Now that SC is sorted and Sahin likely also. What about the back 4? and a DM. Who was it that once said "Arsene Wenger is a great manager, but he only ever buys attacking players" Yeah that`s right: Alex Ferguson. Come on Wenger.......just do it. Mvilla or Wayannma plus a LB pls as Gibbs is unreliable in more ways than one and Santos is a midfielder not LB.

Oh and hurry up getting rid of the crap clogging up the squad numbers.

If we sign Sahin and Cazorla, and you can take this to the bank, we dont need anyone else. Now the concentration should be on getting rid of the shit