Just a general 'kthnxbai'.Originally Posted by Syn
Of course Ollie gets all RAWKish over it though...
Just a general 'kthnxbai'.
Of course Ollie gets all RAWKish over it though...
Yep. It's irrational and I can't get my head around certain peoples thought process.
And yet here you are on a football message board
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Frimpong
"God forgives...... I DON'T Retaliation is a must.."
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
I hear people putting forwards arguments of why it was 'sensible' for the club to sell RVP to our nearest rival for a high transfer fee but at the same time argue that RVP should have showed loyalty to the club and commit his future, his last remaining years as a professional, to a club that's willing to sell any player to any club that comes along with a nice offer. We're not winning trophies, we pay our top stars under 100k a week, you can get double that with a rival club that has more ambition to win silverware. If it makes sense for the club to sell to the highest bidder, then why is it crazy from RVP to look for an exit under these circumstances? Would anyone here turn down a job offer with a major company while your current employers are making redundancies and are so tight they won't even invest in new PCs just to boost productivity and efficiency? Hell no! Would you show loyalty when managers and board members are cutting corners but at the same time rewarding themselves with fat bonuses? Hell no! I support Arsenal and not the fucking shareholders. The club isn't the Board.
What we've done as club is worst because we've just strengthened our competitor. It's bloody insane. We've sold out big time and it sends the wrong message. We look like a selling club, always have, but now it looks like we've thrown all principles out of the window and will drop our pants for anyone. How comes Spurs are able to enforce a hardline with their players and we can't? We give in all the time.
Should we have given into RVP's wage demands....do we even know if negotiations even went that far? If wages weren't discussed in the first meeting and RVP said he wasn't signing because we 'lacked sporting ambition' then it seemed like we moved rather quickly to get his replacement in with Giroud. In fact, we were already thinking way ahead of schedule when we signed Poldoski, if Wenger is saying those two are the contingency plan. Did we really want to offer him a bumper wage deal in the first place? I still can't get over the statement Wenger put out months ago mid season about offering ageing players massive contracts when they're about to pass their peak. That right there was bloody suspect. We sounded reluctant to offer him massive wages in the first place. He didn't make his position untenable because players do that all the time. Gerrard, Lampard, Drogba, Rooney, Modric, Bale...it's not as if we couldn't have turned things around. Did we even hold further talks with RVP after we signed more players because negations may have been smoother from that point. He was training with the squad and being professional. Maybe he would have accepted an £150k contract after the signings, who knows, but it sounds like we didn't even make it that far. As said before, Wenger's comments months ago about his contract situation is a dead give away. We say we wanted him but it didn't look like we put up much of a fight.
I think we've spoken before and I'd say there are serious contradictions in your argument. I'll accept that and move on.And yet here you are on a football message board
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
To be fair, perhaps this thread should be closed soon. I for one was over it the day he released his statement...it was over then ( I think people forget that he made his position untenable unlike Rooney, Gerrard and the others listed above)....didn't matter where he went to be honest Man U, Man City, abroad...fact is he no longer wanted to be an Arsenal player. Have we strengthened a rival, perhaps - yes, but like Wenger said in the end we didn't have a choice. Let's focus any remaining energy on the players we have and look forward to the Sunderland game. RVP, Fabregas, Nasri...all a distant memory, they did nothing, won nothing (apart from RVP's substitute appearance in FA cup win) they really aren't that big a loss when you think about it in those terms.
“Other clubs never came into my thoughts once I knew Arsenal wanted to sign me.” Dennis Bergkamp
"I started clapping myself until I realized that i was sunderland's manager". Peter Reid
"Happy those, who can remain at Highbury." Jane Austen, Emma
Please do.
I agree, thread shud b closed, its a fuckiny merry go round. At least lets use the thread productively n see what abuse we will sing about rvp this season.
You know you're a ****,
You know you're a cnnuuuuuuut,
Robin van persie,
You know you're a ****!
Thats my suggestion
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