Good Bye RVP!

[LDG]

I agree, thread shud b closed, its a fuckiny merry go round. At least lets use the thread productively n see what abuse we will sing about rvp this season.

You know you're a ****,
You know you're a cnnuuuuuuut,
Robin van persie,
You know you're a ****!

Thats my suggestion

Rather than booing etc. The whole stadium should just go deathly quiet when he get's the ball.

[Power n Glory]

He says he wanted to avoid selling to Man Utd at all costs. The club could have avoided it. The price for the indignity was £24m. Right now we're hearing all this stuff about Arsene being angry and tired and ruthless - well he's not calling it like it is, is he? All this principled 'they are our rivals' bullshit means nothing now. You can't hand your best player to a club you're trying to catch. That just doesn't make footballing sense. But it does make financial sense - and that is where our priorities lie.

[Joker]

I hear people putting forwards arguments of why it was 'sensible' for the club to sell RVP to our nearest rival for a high transfer fee but at the same time argue that RVP should have showed loyalty to the club and commit his future, his last remaining years as a professional, to a club that's willing to sell any player to any club that comes along with a nice offer. We're not winning trophies, we pay our top stars under 100k a week, you can get double that with a rival club that has more ambition to win silverware. If it makes sense for the club to sell to the highest bidder, then why is it crazy from RVP to look for an exit under these circumstances? Would anyone here turn down a job offer with a major company while your current employers are making redundancies and are so tight they won't even invest in new PCs just to boost productivity and efficiency? Hell no! Would you show loyalty when managers and board members are cutting corners but at the same time rewarding themselves with fat bonuses? Hell no! I support Arsenal and not the fucking shareholders. The club isn't the Board.

What we've done as club is worst because we've just strengthened our competitor. It's bloody insane. We've sold out big time and it sends the wrong message. We look like a selling club, always have, but now it looks like we've thrown all principles out of the window and will drop our pants for anyone. How comes Spurs are able to enforce a hardline with their players and we can't? We give in all the time.

Should we have given into RVP's wage demands....do we even know if negotiations even went that far? If wages weren't discussed in the first meeting and RVP said he wasn't signing because we 'lacked sporting ambition' then it seemed like we moved rather quickly to get his replacement in with Giroud. In fact, we were already thinking way ahead of schedule when we signed Poldoski, if Wenger is saying those two are the contingency plan. Did we really want to offer him a bumper wage deal in the first place? I still can't get over the statement Wenger put out months ago mid season about offering ageing players massive contracts when they're about to pass their peak. That right there was bloody suspect. We sounded reluctant to offer him massive wages in the first place. He didn't make his position untenable because players do that all the time. Gerrard, Lampard, Drogba, Rooney, Modric, Bale...it's not as if we couldn't have turned things around. Did we even hold further talks with RVP after we signed more players because negations may have been smoother from that point. He was training with the squad and being professional. Maybe he would have accepted an £150k contract after the signings, who knows, but it sounds like we didn't even make it that far. As said before, Wenger's comments months ago about his contract situation is a dead give away. We say we wanted him but it didn't look like we put up much of a fight.

Yep, I don't get how "greed" can only be shown by players but not he board awarding themselves huge bonuses and cashing out on their shares. It's a very conservative attitude that has probably resulted from decades of Thatcherism, whereby the worker is always in the wrong and is being "greedy" for asking for a pay rise while the employer is the oppressed one. That's why people go on about "player power" even though the real power in football lies with the money men. You see this attitude especially clearly with regards to Walcott. He hasn't done anything wrong, he's kept quiet and tried to sort out his contract behind closed doors, and yet you have Arseblog and his lackeys jump down his throat, subtly accuse him of being greedy and afraid of competition from AOC, which is why he apparently wants to leave. Sometimes players can't win.

[Power n Glory]

And we've being going around in circles for years on this topic. Playing quality on the field has gone down, we've won nothing for years, ticket prices are going up, fans are losing out while the shareholders are cashing in. Focusing on the players is pointless. Club policies need to be questioned and that needs to remain on the agenda for fans. I hope we're seeing and turn around this year but seeing how we've sold out, I'm just not sure.

The Walcott case is baffling as well. Arseblog has lost it in my opinion and I've little time for it now. Doesn't seem objective at all and is probably a 'company man' now. Brown paper bags from Gazidis and PR control squad.

[gooners]

And we've being going around in circles for years on this topic. Playing quality on the field has gone down, we've won nothing for years, ticket prices are going up, fans are losing out while the shareholders are cashing in. Focusing on the players is pointless. Club policies need to be questioned and that needs to remain on the agenda for fans. I hope we're seeing and turn around this year but seeing how we've sold out, I'm just not sure.

The Walcott case is baffling as well. Arseblog has lost it in my opinion and I've little time for it now. Doesn't seem objective at all and is probably a 'company man' now. Brown paper bags from Gazidis and PR control squad.

Haha .... wont be surprised.

People on this same thread calling RVP a greedy traitor, are cheering at reports that he got sold despite him seeming to come around after the signings made so far. It is unbelievable because that was the crust of his statement which people are beating him with.

But you, see apparently it was easy for united to keep their star man in similar circumstances; AFC on the other hand has to put financial priorities first. PHW,AW & Co. have won their battle of money-first crusade.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Haha .... wont be surprised.

People on this same thread calling RVP a greedy traitor, are cheering at reports that he got sold despite him seeming to come around after the signings made so far. It is unbelievable because that was the crust of his statement which people are beating him with.

But you, see apparently it was easy for united to keep their star man in similar circumstances; AFC on the other hand has to put financial priorities first. PHW,AW & Co. have won their battle of money-first crusade.

we have players who are coming up for contract renewals, if we accepted van persies statement and then gave him the 200k a week he supposdly wanted, whats to stop theo, song and others doing exactly the same. then we are fucked. and who the fuck needs 200k a week anyway?

[gooners]

we have players who are coming up for contract renewals, if we accepted van persies statement and then gave him the 200k a week he supposdly wanted, whats to stop theo, song and others doing exactly the same. then we are fucked. and who the fuck needs 200k a week anyway?

RVP was our star man & captain! There is a difference.

There is no indication whatsoever that he asked for that much. But nothing prevented him from asking united for that much --- he is at rooney's level.

[Ollie the Optimist]

RVP was our star man & captain! There is a difference.

There is no indication whatsoever that he asked for that much. But nothing prevented him from asking united for that much --- he is at rooney's level.

hence why i said he suppodsly asked for that much. you always say we make up shit when we talk about van persie but you never actually offer us proof that he did or did not do the things we say he does.

[gooners]

hence why i said he suppodsly asked for that much. you always say we make up shit when we talk about van persie but you never actually offer us proof that he did or did not do the things we say he does.

The burden of proof is not on me. Because i am not making
things up as I go along.

[Power n Glory]

we have players who are coming up for contract renewals, if we accepted van persies statement and then gave him the 200k a week he supposdly wanted, whats to stop theo, song and others doing exactly the same. then we are fucked. and who the fuck needs 200k a week anyway?

We're fucked anyway because no player is going to be happy on £50k a week when their counterparts at rival clubs are earning double the wages. As soon as a big club comes knocking, we're powerless and that's been the case for the last 7 years. Maybe if we actually retained our players, took a hit on the books, won some trophies, boosted the global appeal of the club so we're in a better negotiating position when our sponsorship renewals are due, we'll be able to pay these salaries.

We've been taken for right mugs with this stadium move. We're supposed to be competing with the likes of United and not selling them our best players as if we're struggling to stay afloat. The stadium capacity has been boosted so they can charge more money for tickets while cutting corners on the pitch. We didn't move to the Emirates for this shit. Our wage bill has increased but we're spending a huge chunk of it on no hope players by increasing the average wage. Wilshere, Ox...they'll follow in the same footsteps of Cole if the club try to shaft them on wages in the future. We don't operate in a bubble and our wage structure leads to the inevitable. Players will leave. It was proven with Cole, now with RVP and the same will happen in the future. We say modern players are greedy but nobody here would pledge loyalty to such a tight fisted company in the real world.