Gooners have been spoilt

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I didn't think the reaction was that excessive on Saturday. Heard a bit of booing but nothing more than a bit of frustration/disappointment.
And I don't think the mood is that downbeat in general.
The gereral mood seems to be that we've made good signings, accept they'll need some time to gel and that we have the makings of a pretty decent side.

We have been spoilt by Wenger's glory years but 7 years without a trophy is too long for a club our our stature (it has to be acknowledged that Wenger has made us a club of this stature, we were a 'big club' before Wenger came along but he has raised our level and expectations have raised accordingly)

It is harder to win trophies these days. The billionaire-fueled clubs are very difficult to compete with (and yes yes, Fergie manages it but he's probably the best manager of all time, Wenger's no bumbling idiot but he ain't Fergie). And the stadium move, while long term a good thing for the club has in the short term, combined with poor commercial deals, restricted us somewhat. Although we have, IMO, been too cautious and that has made our lives harder than it needed be. The benefits of that may yet to be seen.

Wenger has done brilliantly to keep us top 4 IMO in an era where so many clubs are throwing such silly money around. But we've been in a few positions in the last 7 years when we could and should have won trophies and we've failed to. That is where he has failed and any other club at our level would have sacked a manager after this long.

Fairly upbeat about this season. Don't think we'll win a trophy but at least we've signed some proper quality and while I don't think we'll win a trophy i fancy us for a top 4 finish again.

Top post Letters again.

The thing is I don't think the club does conduct it's business well....not any more...not since Dein and Edelman left

Gazidis is a complete cretin, only a moron would try and tap up a phone company for sponsorship negotiations without doing any research and then discovering to your horror that said company is owned by the man who owns almost 30% of the club and whom so far you have refused any sort of dialogue with.

Then there is the fact that Wenger desperately needs to be reigned in, he's performing far too many tasks for the club and in many cases he is performing those tasks badly......he has completely fucked the wage bill, he refuses any sort of advice or differing opinion as to how to go about things with the squad and has made a complete cock up of our transfer/contract negotiations.

He's a good manager i think still, but he's not a lawyer or litigator and he's not a businessman.....so he needs to take a big fucking step back and the fact that the club allow him to perform all these tasks and essentially employ his own boss....shows that things aren't being run well at all.

This.

The reaction after the first game was justified.

It might have been the first game of the season but to us, it felt like just another game of the previous 3 seasons where nothing had been learned and we lacked any ideas on how to break teams down.

We bought in 3 players which of course raised the excitement level and rightly so cos Wenger buying 3 ready made players is literally unheard of these days but then we go and sell 2 of our star players so right back to square one.

Seeing the same shit, same mistakes same everything being made season in and season out can make anyone pull their hair out. 7 years we have not developed, what makes people think we will this season? We have not improved at all the last 7 years. Sure the first 2/3 years, we were content with top 4 as we settled in to the new stadium and a new era but then we expected the club to push on and once again become challengers for the main trophies cos as i said, if we keep challenging for the league then eventually we will win it but unfortunately the board and Wenger are quite content with settling for top 4 and the level we are at atm and takes no risk of trying to challenge. I thought he was taking a risk by bringing in players this summer but we have pretty much made back what we spent with the sales of RVP and Song so we havent moved on at all imo

Add the fact we play shit football, pay the most of any fans in the country to see this shit football and you can see why fans are the way they are.

Not much wrong with the fans, plenty wrong with the top brass at the club

We played one game this season and it was hardly shit football unless your on about the last 7 years then id have to say our football had hardly been shit more entertaining.

you can see why fans are the way they are And how are the fans exactly. not alll are angry and upset ans you seem to suggest.