Gooners have been spoilt

[Niall_Quinn]

No - not like that. I mean that a combination of petro dollars and 7 trophy less years seems to have turned many of us into bitter, perennially alienated fans.

This is no Wenger apologist thread, but it amazes me the comments I've seen on here and elsewhere about our team and club. The fact that we a written off after a single game where we failed to win against a team that will grind out many bore draws this season against decent opposition. Slagging off of players who have played a single competitive match together.

I asked recently whether it is Wenger who has become stale or whether it is us? The attitude that has been shown by many Gooners so far this season would suggest it is firmly the latter. Does slipping off your perch make every fan feel like this? I'd love to hear from some older Liverpool, Spurs or Villa fans, because it's difficult to imagine more of a negative outlook at the beginning of a season. Sure, we are unlikely to win the league, yes we have lost one player we admired, and another who IMO is Adebayor-lite. But Wenger seems to be trying to deliver something different at least.

Have we honestly forgotten to enjoy seeing a team develop? Do our new signings not deserve a little faith? Are we not even half excited about seeing perhaps a different style of football once new players bed in. Or have we become so jaded by our club's failure to spend petro-dollar style that we only watch Arsenal to see us fail?

It's because the club is being run by rapists. And whores are wearing the shirt. There's nothing left to connect to. It has nothing to do with whether we win trophies or not, at least not for me. Went many years without a trophy and loved it all. But now the football is crushingly boring, it's not worth the money being asked - it's not worth anything at all. Because the owners and the players are here to milk the club dry it seems stupid to be mindlessly loyal - fuck them, I'm not a total mug. The club is dead. Whether it can be resuscitated once the horrible ****s that infest the game have stripped everything bare and left the carcass to rot, I don't know. I hope so.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yes, I think that's the main frustration. The feeling of 'nearly, but not quite' being ready to challenge and that we just need one or two players to push us on...but instead we lose one or two key players and have to rebuild again.

Not for me. The main frustration is not being able to watch decent football. I can't bear to watch them any more because I know before kick off the type of abject shit that will be on display. Enough already. Not just Arsenal of course, almost every team plays total shit these days. No pace in the game, no direct play (skilful direct play, not Stoke hoof-a-ball). Horrible stuff. Not worth watching.

[Niall_Quinn]

What do you expect the fans to do?

Kidnap Wengers girlfriend and hold her hostage til he does whats right?

I expected us to play like we gave a fuck v Sunderland be the result win, draw or loss

We didnt

You've identified one of the main problem - the players don't give a fuck. No incentive. Life's way too easy. Money for old rope, week in, week out. You can see it in the way they play. Apart from Koscielny, for some reason that poor sap seems to give a shit. Maybe he's afflicted with personal integrity. The rest are all mouth and no action. Their main game is on Twitter, they're a fucking embarrassment on the pitch.

[AKBapologist]

gooners has a point tbh.

At any moment, Kronke could sell out, shortly after draining however much he wanted from the clubs coffers.


And they all talk a load of bullshit re: we can't pay down debt early. Any idiot knows that interest in savings is many times less than the interest on debt regardless of what retarded penalty clauses or inflation adjustments to sign up to.

[LDG]

Ah fuck off the lotta ya!!

Come on The Arsenal!

[gooners]

same applies i guess. if you are thick enough to believe that players running hundreds of miles every season, working their nuts off to win games, would look at their trophy as tainted, then you really and truly have not got a clue.

[Letters]

same applies i guess. if you are thick enough to believe that players running hundreds of miles every season, working their nuts off to win games, would look at their trophy as tainted, then you really and truly have not got a clue.

Why would I care how the players feel? I'm not one.
I'm telling you how I feel.

[Kano]

no shit sherlock, i thought it was someone else.

i've seen you write the same elsewhere, something about rvp being smart enough to realise that winning trophies at somewhere like city would be tainted.

see. you do care after all.

[GP]

If we spent half a billion quid and won the league then, for me, that 'achievement' would be tainted. So yes, for me it's true.

If you're too stupid to see the difference between winning it that way and winning by building a team from young players, supplemented by the odd more established player bought from our own income then fair enough.

100% correct.

[Letters]

i've seen you write the same elsewhere, something about rvp being smart enough to realise that winning trophies at somewhere like city would be tainted.

Yes. And he didn't go there.

Most players aren't anywhere near that bright.