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    Quote Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10 View Post
    Back from a pretty bad injury and scored 8 premiership goals
    Sinclair's first season in premiership bagged 8 goals...scored 27 the season before in the championship...so definitely more to come.
    There are other options if Walcott doesn't want to sign....just saying...his stats are really not that impressive...except when you compare them to post-invincible signings like arshavin, eboue or gervinho as you seem intent on doing...even nasri got into double figures with us. There are other players in the premiership and beyond who could do better for us...of that I am sure.
    You think it's unfair for me to compare him to our most recent signings? Pires was one of the best players in the Prems history. No player here since has been able to come close to his numbers. Rosicky's best goal tally is 7, Reyes 12, Hleb a pathetic 4, Nasri...15 but before that 7 goals. Arshavin 12....

    Rival club wingers....best tallies over a season.
    Bale - 12 goals
    Lennon - 5 goals
    Nani - 10 goals
    Valencia - 7 goals
    Victor Moses - 6 goals
    Malouda - 15 goals
    Ashely Young - 8 for Man Utd/ 10 for Villa

    Am I missing anyone? We can't nitpick about Theo's goal tally when his peers are putting in these sort of numbers for goals. Who are we judging him against for goals? The guys that get Pires and Ronaldo numbers are superstars and out of our price range.

    I don't think Theo is suited as winger, not for our squad anyway. I get the same impression with Poldsoki. The best part of Theo's game is his off the ball runs, his pace and his finishing. He's not a tricky winger that dances around wing backs and I get the same impression with Poldoski.

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    He still can't control a football sadly.

    You're right, PnG. His runs are very good, but we just don't play that way.

    The way we play requires someone to be comfortable in possession. And he has the touch of a JCB.

    Slot someone more suited to the role in there, and they'll score more than Theo, and assist more than Theo....because our team is kitted out to be able to provide the chances for that....other teams don't play the same way, hence why Theo's return (whilst good v other prem players) is not brilliant when you consider the opportunities he gets on the ball.

    He's an old fashioned striker at heart, and whilst I think he'd be #decent inthat role, we just don't play that way....

    Shame, but if he moves on, it's no massive loss, as long as we replace him, of course.
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    I agree. Good post. I really hope they dont offer him a penny more than 75k a week. I wouldnt mind him going at all - much to inconsistent at the top level notwithstanding he can be brilliant at times.

    LDG;184433]He still can't control a football sadly.

    You're right, PnG. His runs are very good, but we just don't play that way.

    The way we play requires someone to be comfortable in possession. And he has the touch of a JCB.

    Slot someone more suited to the role in there, and they'll score more than Theo, and assist more than Theo....because our team is kitted out to be able to provide the chances for that....other teams don't play the same way, hence why Theo's return (whilst good v other prem players) is not brilliant when you consider the opportunities he gets on the ball.

    He's an old fashioned striker at heart, and whilst I think he'd be #decent inthat role, we just don't play that way....

    Shame, but if he moves on, it's no massive loss, as long as we replace him, of course.[/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    He still can't control a football sadly.

    You're right, PnG. His runs are very good, but we just don't play that way.

    The way we play requires someone to be comfortable in possession. And he has the touch of a JCB.

    Slot someone more suited to the role in there, and they'll score more than Theo, and assist more than Theo....because our team is kitted out to be able to provide the chances for that....other teams don't play the same way, hence why Theo's return (whilst good v other prem players) is not brilliant when you consider the opportunities he gets on the ball.

    He's an old fashioned striker at heart, and whilst I think he'd be #decent inthat role, we just don't play that way....

    Shame, but if he moves on, it's no massive loss, as long as we replace him, of course.
    But this is the thing, we've had far far far better players with a brilliant first, vision, control....none of them have even come close to doing what's expected of them. None are able to relentless terrorise a wing back.

    For starters, we've often played square pegs in round holes such as Rosicky, Hleb, Nasri and Arshavin. They're not the type of players that blitz defenders with trickery and pace. Technically gifted players but not suited on the flanks. All of them can have anonymous and frustrating games. As seen against Stoke, these guys would probably struggle as well because their over indulegent with the tippy tappy crap. Not direcr enough.

    Then we have Gervinho and Eboue. Direct and able to beat their man but no end product. Frustrating to watch and they get a lot more stick compared to the above mentioned players, but I think they're more effective when it comes to stretching teams and creating chances. The technically players take very few risks and we get bogged down in endless passing routines.

    We need superstar players for our style of play. Ronaldo, Robben, Hazard, Ronalinho types and they don't grow on trees. I think Poldski is going to struggle in our set up as well because he's not a dazzling dribbler playmaker type. Or if we're going to play with three strikers, we need an awesome trio in the middle and two very good central playmakers that pass triangles around everyone like at Barca. Wenger is trying to turn Walcott into a Ljungberg type player and even he'd struggle in this current set up because we don't counter attack, move the ball quick enough and we have no superstar playmakers. I hope come Friday we see what Wenger is trying to do but at the moment, it looks like he's run out of ideas and we're going to see the same sort of square pegs in round holes all over again.

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    This club is run by shitheads.

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    Theo has been offered a fair wage on a new contract for what he has achieved so far.

    If he doesn't want to sign it then we should sell him.

    It's not the clubs fault that he wants more money based on what his England team mates earn.
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    None of the strategizing here matters. We are a player trading and revenue generating entity with the sole objective of delivering growth in the value of shares.

    If offloading Carzola right now went towards achieving that objective, we'd do it.

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    I guess not Jeebus but his agent can easily say, he is the most productive remaining player at Arsenal. I see it like this: there are players out there I think are better than Theo but the likelihood of getting anyone like that with such little time is marginal at best.

    Therefore I think we should just suck it up for once, 100k isn't that excessive comparitively. Yes people will say he doesn't deserve it but Wenger plays him so often, it kinda indicates to his representatives that he actually does (in football terms).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    He still can't control a football sadly.

    You're right, PnG. His runs are very good, but we just don't play that way.

    The way we play requires someone to be comfortable in possession. And he has the touch of a JCB.

    Slot someone more suited to the role in there, and they'll score more than Theo, and assist more than Theo....because our team is kitted out to be able to provide the chances for that....other teams don't play the same way, hence why Theo's return (whilst good v other prem players) is not brilliant when you consider the opportunities he gets on the ball.

    He's an old fashioned striker at heart, and whilst I think he'd be #decent inthat role, we just don't play that way....

    Shame, but if he moves on, it's no massive loss, as long as we replace him, of course.
    we rely on technical footballers and unfortunately theo isn't one. as you say- comfortability, technical prowess and intelligence is something we require from all our players and you could argue theo has none of that. everytime he gets the ball i get the feeling he doesn't really know what he's going to do with it. for example when nani gets the ball, you can see he's instantly thinking 'ill take this defender on and cross the ball to the far post'. there's a degree of coordination in his play instead of instant panic. when becks receives the ball, he's already scanned the pitch to see who's free so he can play a 30 yard pass to his teammate. there's that sense of organised thinking once again. unfortunately i dont get that feeling with theo. its almost as if he thinks 'ive just got the ball so ill run into space and see what happens'. there's no systematic plan of attack or conviction in his play. if he takes a defender on he quickly panics and looks up, hoping he can pass to a teammate. does he really know how to take a defender on? how to turn a defender inside out? how to leave him on his arse? the top wingers in the league do but theo's game is all over the place. there's been plenty of times ive seen him try take players on and bottle it, simply to turn around and play a 2 yard pass to a teammate. that tells me he doesn't really know what he wants to do with the ball and that there's no structured thought process to his attacks.

    i bet deep down he wishes he went to united. i knoq its all opinion but i think he would have thrived under fergie because fergie's a manager who wouldn't take half hearted performances. he would have bulked theo up more like he done with ronaldo and had a more hands on approach to his play. wenger is very much a manager that likes to sit back and let the player learn himself. it worked with song, van persie and koscielny, but it hasn't with theo. theo needs a manager to help him when he makes the wrong decisions, a manager to guide him properly. he needs to stay behind in training sessions with one of the youth team defenders and practise his dribbling. it's a shame cause by now i expected him to become a world beater but i don't mind if he leaves. adios amigo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    I guess not Jeebus but his agent can easily say, he is the most productive remaining player at Arsenal. I see it like this: there are players out there I think are better than Theo but the likelihood of getting anyone like that with such little time is marginal at best.

    Therefore I think we should just suck it up for once, 100k isn't that excessive comparitively. Yes people will say he doesn't deserve it but Wenger plays him so often, it kinda indicates to his representatives that he actually does (in football terms).
    And if he doesn't live up to wages then we can sell him without the pressure. We can go one or two seasons with him earning £100k. It's not as if we won't be able to sell him off after either. He's not a Denilson or Bendtner.

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