Champions League Group Stage Draw, 30/08/12, 17:00 BST. Ish.

[Özim]

You are both wrong because in your desire to be miserable, or in Ach's case wum, neither of you have thought it through.

Why would a team want to be drawn in the Group Stage against a team that pretty much always qualifies for the knock outs?

Drawing us in the knock out stage is a separate matter altogether.


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If I was a manager getting us out of Pot 1 would be a great draw, the other teams have better players and are on the whole stronger teams, thus the possibility of picking up points against us is greater. In addition 2 teams qualify from the groups and we have a number of times come 2nd.

Not hard to see why other teams would want to be in our group really. I wouldn't want to have Real, Barca, Chelsea, Bayern or Man U. The other three teams are not so bad, though Milan proved last season they were better than us as well.

You'd have to be delusional to think that we're not one of the better draws seeing the other teams in Pot 1 tbh.

[Xhaka Can’t]

If I was a manager getting us out of Pot 1 would be a great draw, the other teams have better players and are on the whole stronger teams, thus the possibility of picking up points against us is greater. In addition 2 teams qualify from the groups and we have a number of times come 2nd.

Not hard to see why other teams would want to be in our group really. I wouldn't want to have Real, Barca, Chelsea, Bayern or Man U. The other three teams are not so bad, though Milan proved last season they were better than us as well.

You'd have to be delusional to think that we're not one of the better draws seeing the other teams in Pot 1 tbh.

We have a better record of emerging from the Group stages than just about every team you mentioned.

In fact not one team has a record better than ours.


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[Olivier's xmas twist]

Didnt they just beat Barca?

Oh i see what you mean

Barca

Even gooners dont think they are a good side

Barca fans eh?

[Dennis Bendtner]

2004-5 ---> 1st
2005-6 ---> 1st
2006-7 ---> 1st
2007-8 ---> 2nd
2008-9 ---> 2nd
2009-10 ---> 1st
2010-11 ---> 2nd
2011-12 ---> 1st

Very little in the way of a point to be made here. Self-loathing isn't healthy.