Disappointment Knows No End

[Cripps_orig]

Who said that.

Wenger

[Marc Overmars]

No he did not want out in the way RVC did but once Barca came in his head was turned, yes we could have said no and probs should have but if he made his mind up to go then its better to sell then keep a player who had his head turned.

We were always going to sell 2 top players this summer only thought it would be theo instead of song. Well least next summer no one will want our players.

Oh we'll sell next summer to fund any purchases, you can bank on that.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Wenger

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[Niall_Quinn]

Guys, guys! All is well. Isn't this the year we can renegotiate some of the sponsorship deals that have a lot of room for improved terms? Also we have an easy CL draw so there's cash coming in from that. The wage bill is down, the squad lighter, we're only paying some of Nick's and Park's wages. The debt is being shifted and the share price continues to rise. Can't see where all the doom and gloom is coming from. The books are looking spectacularly good, no other team is anywhere near us. If this isn't a dynasty then tell me what is. We have been top where it really matters for years. Why are you all spoiling it by banging on about football? What's that got to do with anything?

[Letters]

Top 4 is more or less gone this season and even if we did sneak in, its just scraping the barrel.

That's what you said last year.

Top 4 isn't scraping the barrel, it's what his bosses set as his target and he hits it every year.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Anyone who thinks Wenger is the only problem at the club is deluded.

The whole thing makes your head spin though. Every year we have a car crash of a summer and somehow Wenger manages to salvage the situation and we end up in the top 4. Wenger deserves some credit for that. And every year it looks like we've the makings of a decent side which just needs a few additions in order to push on and seriously challenge. And this summer it looked like we might actually be doing some proper business signing 3 decent players. But then we went and sold 2 first teamers, one of whom was the main reason we finished top 4. And, worse, we went and sold him to a team who finished above us last year and with whom we're supposed to be trying to compete.

So here we are again. Will Wenger be able to deliver a top 4 finish again. I wouldn't put it past him, he's done it so many times. Will we win a trophy? Not a chance. Is it all his fault? I don't think so. Would things get better if he left? Personally I doubt it. I have a feeling we'll fall out of the top 4 but maybe that is better than this endless stagnation.

Gaah. Balls to it all.

Oh your not wrong but he is a big part of it. Why does he not show ambtion or care about winning. Is it he does but he is just not a good manager? or maybe he is taking the hit now so when he leaves the club will be in good condition for when the next manager takes over.

Just seems he is selling out and turning on the fans, but like i said above even if he goes nothing will change whilst the regime is still the same. Dnd those who think it will are deluding themselves.

The club is in a mess that it will take along time to fix even winning a trophy won't change the mess we are in.

[Niall_Quinn]

That's what you said last year.

Top 4 isn't scraping the barrel, it's what his bosses set as his target and he hits it every year.

Would we have been understanding if they had they guts to come out and tell us top 4 was the realistic limit of our ambitions, at least in the mid term, given what we are up against? Maybe. But lying about wanting to win stuff, that's probably what sticks in the throat. Then again, can a sporting outfit really announce beforehand the aim is not to win? Difficult one. We need to start thinking more along the lines of Stoke City than Manchester City. That's closer to our level now. The top flight is gone, at least until Stan sells to the Russian. Even then, who knows what that gangster has in store for the club? Could be even worse. The future is not bright whichever way you dish it. It's a mess. For me, it doesn't matter if Wenger goes or stays because we don't have a manager at this club in the traditional sense. We have a financial executive, that's the role the board wants filled. The disconnect with the fans and even the original purpose of the game is absolute.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

That's what you said last year.

Top 4 isn't scraping the barrel, it's what his bosses set as his target and he hits it every year.

Pretty much and he'll get it again, spurs are not that much stronger and with AVB that will be a disadvatage enough, neither are pool. We'll luck our way to 4th, Wenger will be told he is a genius again and nest summer well be the same Carzola being liked to city all summer.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Would we have been understanding if they had they guts to come out and tell us top 4 was the realistic limit of our ambitions, at least in the mid term, given what we are up against? Maybe. But lying about wanting to win stuff, that's probably what sticks in the throat. Then again, can a sporting outfit really announce beforehand the aim is not to win? Difficult one. We need to start thinking more along the lines of Stoke City than Manchester City. That's closer to our level now. The top flight is gone, at least until Stan sells to the Russian. Even then, who knows what that gangster has in store for the club? Could be even worse. The future is not bright whichever way you dish it. It's a mess. For me, The disconnect with the fans and even the original purpose of the game is absolute.

Like to see tat before season ticket renewal time.

it doesn't matter if Wenger goes or stays because we don't have a manager at this club in the traditional sense. We have a financial executive, that's the role the board wants filled.

Spot on.

[fakeyank]

Anyone who thinks Wenger is the only problem at the club is deluded.

The whole thing makes your head spin though. Every year we have a car crash of a summer and somehow Wenger manages to salvage the situation and we end up in the top 4. Wenger deserves some credit for that. And every year it looks like we've the makings of a decent side which just needs a few additions in order to push on and seriously challenge. And this summer it looked like we might actually be doing some proper business signing 3 decent players. But then we went and sold 2 first teamers, one of whom was the main reason we finished top 4. And, worse, we went and sold him to a team who finished above us last year and with whom we're supposed to be trying to compete.

So here we are again. Will Wenger be able to deliver a top 4 finish again. I wouldn't put it past him, he's done it so many times. Will we win a trophy? Not a chance. Is it all his fault? I don't think so. Would things get better if he left? Personally I doubt it. I have a feeling we'll fall out of the top 4 but maybe that is better than this endless stagnation.

Gaah. Balls to it all.

Wenger is THE problem IMO.. I am just saying, why not resign IF the board is not letting you run Arsenal as a football club? Why side with the devil? It makes him more of a culprit in my eyes than Stan, Gazidis and co.