Post Match Reaction v Liverpool

[Globalgunner]

Didn't watch it, don't care if we won, lost or drew. Kroenke out, that's what it's all about.

Cheer up NQ
"Your girlfriend left you for another man
Don`t worry, Be happy
The council came to tow your van
Don`t worry, Be happy"
etc.....

[Master Splinter]

It's rare to see us counter like that.

Orbinho ‏@Orbinho

Arsenal scored a divisional-high nine goals from counter attacks in the Premier League last season

Perception. Perhaps Fat Sam was right about it.

[Power n Glory]

Perception. Perhaps Fat Sam was right about it.

It was less tippy tappy and Liverpool had a large chunk of possession. Against teams set up to defend, as seen with our first two games, we won't get to counter as much.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Agreed, this was more reminiscent of past teams. Not that I am suggesting we are anywhere near the competency of those teams - it is just a comment on the style.

[Master Splinter]

It was less tippy tappy and Liverpool had a large chunk of possession. Against teams set up to defend, as seen with our first two games, we won't get to counter as much.

The point is that we are supposedly terrible at counter-attacking these days, but this shows that we are joint-best in the League at it.

You can't counter against teams like Sunderland who barely venture out of their own box.

[Syn]

MS, I genuinely can't remember one counter-attacking goal we scored last season. Maybe their definition of 'counter attack' is a Song dink and a Van Persie volley?

I think the only solution to opening up the '10 men behind the ball' teams is filling the midfield and attack with tekkers. If many of Cathedral, Wheelshare, Oxlade, Pod are injured, we'll struggle.

[Power n Glory]

The point is that we are supposedly terrible at counter-attacking these days, but this shows that we are joint-best in the League at it.

You can't counter against teams like Sunderland who barely venture out of their own box.

Which is exactly the point I'm making, which is why i said it was a different game and that it's rare because most teams will sit deep against us. I didn't say we were rubbish at it.

[Power n Glory]

MS, I genuinely can't remember one counter-attacking goal we scored last season. Maybe their definition of 'counter attack' is a Song dink and a Van Persie volley?

I think the only solution to opening up the '10 men behind the ball' teams is filling the midfield and attack with tekkers. If many of Cathedral, Wheelshare, Oxlade, Pod are injured, we'll struggle.

Yeah, I think this sort of game would have been perfect for Theo. Poldoski did well today too but we need to come up
with a system for the teams that park the bus. Diaby was also perfect for this sort of open game. He's able to turn on the ball quickly and make great powerful runs on the ball. It was really impressive. Grew in confidence as the came went on.

[Master Splinter]

Which is exactly the point I'm making, which is why i said it was a different game and that it's rare because most teams will sit deep against us. I didn't say we were rubbish at it.

You said it was rare. Which it perhaps is. But it seems rare for most teams these days.

And it's often said on here how we can't and never do score on the counter.

The blinding brilliance of the Henry-Pires-Bergkamp-Ljunberg axis often warps people's memories so that everything then was perfect and everything now is deficient.

[Master Splinter]

MS, I genuinely can't remember one counter-attacking goal we scored last season. Maybe their definition of 'counter attack' is a Song dink and a Van Persie volley?

I think the only solution to opening up the '10 men behind the ball' teams is filling the midfield and attack with tekkers. If many of Cathedral, Wheelshare, Oxlade, Pod are injured, we'll struggle.

Off the top of my head, I can recall three RVC counter-attacking goals against Dortmund, Chelsea and United.

I'm sure Maccy can help out with some others.