It's all because our lack of ambition. We could have easily kept those players if we showed we really wanted to win trophies instead of just talking about it. We only buy after we sell our best players and even then we're buying unknowns instead of top quality replacements. The players are as frustrated as the fans, why should they stay on a sinking ship.
Awww man. I miss those daysOriginally Posted by GB.
Now I have to battle to plumb in washing machines, buy new toasters and paint bedrooms.
Fuckin sucks
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Interestingly this summer we did the exact opposite although the net result was the same.
The ship isn't sinking, it's bobbing around in the doldrums.
IMO we'll still finish 4th this year. It's not decline, it's stagnation, and I don't know which is worse.
I think we were unlucky with RVP. If ever a player should have been loyal it's him.
Paid him top money for 8 years and he was injured for 6 of them.
Defended him during times of petulance.
Stood by him when he cheated on his wife with some slag who then accused him of rape.
Made him Captain.
He then has an AMAZING 18 months and fucks off to Man U.
Of course we only did these things because he's a great player, but still.
And this summer we actually did show some ambition. We signed three quality players (I'm including Giroud). The funny thing is if we had RVP this season I think we could have challenged
The others are a bit different. For all that's said about the Arsenal player exodus I think the only players Wenger did not want to sell were Fabregas, Nasri and RVP. Clichy, Toure, Adebayor, Song etc were either not that good or had attitude problems. Adebayor begged us not to sell him to City!!
RVP: Well I personally think he's been a **** to us.
Nasri: ****
Cesc: He wanted to play for his home town club who happen to be pretty good. He gave us great service, wasn't a great captain, but went in a dignified way.
If Man U didn't win shit for 7 years and were not the highest wage payers you can bet that Scholes, Giggs, Rooney etc would have all fucked off as well. It's not just Arsenal.
There is no player loyalty, other than Juventus!
Mostly agree with the above ^. But still don't think 'trophies' are an obsession for players as it is for some fans. But linked to trophies - 'prestige' is a bigger factor. Maybe saying you're a footballer at Juventus just feels better than saying you're a footballer at Man City, all else equal. On that front, I think we've sold ourselves short for a club with Arsenal's traditions. I reckon Liverpool would get more player loyalty than us for this reason. When you sell your captain to one of your biggest rivals for the last 15 years, it's small-time and you can't claim you give a shit about club traditions IMO.
Top post sir.I think we were unlucky with RVP. If ever a player should have been loyal it's him.
Paid him top money for 8 years and he was injured for 6 of them.
Defended him during times of petulance.
Stood by him when he cheated on his wife with some slag who then accused him of rape.
Made him Captain.
He then has an AMAZING 18 months and fucks off to Man U.
Of course we only did these things because he's a great player, but still.
And this summer we actually did show some ambition. We signed three quality players (I'm including Giroud). The funny thing is if we had RVP this season I think we could have challenged
The others are a bit different. For all that's said about the Arsenal player exodus I think the only players Wenger did not want to sell were Fabregas, Nasri and RVP. Clichy, Toure, Adebayor, Song etc were either not that good or had attitude problems. Adebayor begged us not to sell him to City!!
RVP: Well I personally think he's been a **** to us.
Nasri: ****
Cesc: He wanted to play for his home town club who happen to be pretty good. He gave us great service, wasn't a great captain, but went in a dignified way.
If Man U didn't win shit for 7 years and were not the highest wage payers you can bet that Scholes, Giggs, Rooney etc would have all fucked off as well. It's not just Arsenal.
There is no player loyalty, other than Juventus!
Ashley Cole
That's just about the only example people can point to but it doesn't make the overall point less true. Homegrown is more likely to stay.
It's my least favourite logical error that people make, not just on here.
"Smoking is bad for you"
"My granny smoked for 50 years and she lived till she was 93"
That isn't a counter-argument, fuckwit! Probable != Possible.
Oh shut up you miserable old bastard!
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
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