Goodbye Sanga?

[Power n Glory]

Players walking, players bitching, a silent board, a manager who states both opposites at the same time, and all of it passed down through the fans who are fuck this, fuck that. Not the signature of a club going anywhere but down. In footballing terms. The share price continues to rise. It has been about the share price for a long time now. For every problem, every negative sentiment, every footballing failure and every chip away at the prestige of the club you can look to that share price. It's at the heart of it all. A bunch of grubby thieves who have already dug out half the gold and a grubby yank with a sack ready to get his. And a grubby Russian waiting in the wings. The only decision fans have to make is whether they will spend another year playing along or whether they have had enough and decide to get off the merry-go-round. The cheer your club come what may argument only holds water for as long as the fuckers actually at the club are pulling in the same direction as you. They aren't. Supporting them is actually harming the club. The worst aspect for a fan is looking for the alternative. There isn't one. This is how football is now. You let the wrongs sorts in, like your Abramovich or 40 thieves from the desert or that sorry excuse for a human being Rupert Murdoch and this is what you get. We need a forest fire now, we need the game to burn to the ground before it can grow again. In the grand scheme of things, who is this bloke Sagna? Nobody at all.

by the way.

When you're getting paid a handsome sum, it makes it easier to stay silent. It's why Wenger is able to compromise so much even though he should be leading the charge for more silverware. The players aren't getting paid enough to compromise like that.

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ne-Rooney.html



Is Sajma bored or something?

Why talk about something that happened ages ago and has f all to do with him?

Hes right though again

The English

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Slow news day today

[The Ogg Monster]

Sanga needs to shut the fuck up and stop getting his legs broken. The only person he needs to moan at is himself for not being good enough to win a trophy here. Iwouldnt give a shit if he's sold he's easily replaceable.

[Niall_Quinn]

This

Every thing Sagna said was right and if it changes the way the dumbasses in charge change then its for the greater good.

Fans can say all that til they are blue in the face but the board/manager will never pay attention. If a player does it, it will hopefully make them sit up and notice that they are destroying this great club from within.

So Sagna is some sort of heroic figure here? Like all the other heroes that have moaned publicly and then (coincidentally no doubt) left the club for apparently greener pastures? Extrapolating, if ALL the players started behaving this way the shareholders would suddenly change course. I don't think that's true. If Sagna doesn't like his job (for some reason that's beyond all comprehension given what his job actually is) then he can put in a transfer request, can't he? He can try to find some other club to pay him millions and do things in a way that suit him better. Seems pretty obvious what this pre-departure player dancing is all about though. It's the easiest way for a player to force his way out of a contract while deceitfully trying to maintain the high ground. I don't buy it. He's banking on the majority being fooled though and he'll probably succeed in that. It's like that other guy who went to Man Utd. Poor him, club captain, £130K a week on the table, an emerging legend in a team brimming with history - not enough for him, time to leave for our biggest rivals, time to shit and piss all over the fans and add a little insult to the injury by claiming it's done with us in mind. He was trying to help us, wasn't he? A right fucking martyr, someone to be praised and there are plenty waiting to do the job. Quite a signal to be sending to the next guy hunting for the easy exit. We'll see how many fans still have patience with this when Walcott, Jack and then Ox are on the way out.

[Syn]

Sagna was moaning about not being offered a contract as next year he will have 1 year left. He's a top defender, really, and we probably should move quickly to try to tie him down. If it doesn't work, oh well - at least we tried. He does have this tendency to pick up long injury spells but we've got to take a gamble on that I suppose.

And that also reminds me - Koscielny only has 3 years left on his contract. Next summer he'll only have 2. And then then he'll go away with the French World Cup squad with only a year or so remaining. How the fuck haven't we offered him a new contract yet? The club need to wake the fuck up. We can't keep allowing this to happen!

[Master Splinter]

Eastmond has a twelve year contract. By next year, it will be eleven. If we don't sort this out now, he'll do the same as Sagan.

Can't blame the players if we're not offering them a new contract every week.

[gooners]

So Sagna is some sort of heroic figure here? Like all the other heroes that have moaned publicly and then (coincidentally no doubt) left the club for apparently greener pastures? Extrapolating, if ALL the players started behaving this way the shareholders would suddenly change course. I don't think that's true. If Sagna doesn't like his job (for some reason that's beyond all comprehension given what his job actually is) then he can put in a transfer request, can't he? He can try to find some other club to pay him millions and do things in a way that suit him better. Seems pretty obvious what this pre-departure player dancing is all about though. It's the easiest way for a player to force his way out of a contract while deceitfully trying to maintain the high ground. I don't buy it. He's banking on the majority being fooled though and he'll probably succeed in that. It's like that other guy who went to Man Utd. Poor him, club captain, £130K a week on the table, an emerging legend in a team brimming with history - not enough for him, time to leave for our biggest rivals, time to shit and piss all over the fans and add a little insult to the injury by claiming it's done with us in mind. He was trying to help us, wasn't he? A right fucking martyr, someone to be praised and there are plenty waiting to do the job. Quite a signal to be sending to the next guy hunting for the easy exit. We'll see how many fans still have patience with this when Walcott, Jack and then Ox are on the way out.

No, he is not a hero.

He should be happy he gets paid a bucket load of money, suffers morbid injuries and has no chance of winning any honours in his sport. Apparently, 'fans' pay his wages so he owes them his life, career and lifestyle.

Back in the day, players played for free and for the shirt

then he can put in a transfer request, can't he? He can try to find some other club to pay him millions and do things in a way that suit him better.

and if they do, the mantra invariably reverts to 'there is no loyalty in the game anymore'.

methinks it is REALITY that eludes most fans and our saintly, pro bono - working manager these days.

[Power n Glory]

No, he is not a hero.

He should be happy he gets paid a bucket load of money, suffers morbid injuries and has no chance of winning any honours in his sport. Apparently, 'fans' pay his wages so he owes them his life, career and lifestyle.

Back in the day, players played for free and for the shirt




and if they do, the mantra invariably reverts to 'there is no loyalty in the game anymore'.

methinks it is REALITY that eludes most fans and our saintly, pro bono - working manager these days.

Wouldn't it be strange if the players were content with 4th place every season while picking up their weekly wages? Wouldn't that just make them as bad as Wenger and the Board? Is that what we're asking of them? To keep quiet and just accept that this is the way it is at Arsenal? Sounds like a line out of PHW's book if you ask me.

It's time to turn the attention away from the players and focus on the people that constantly take the piss and treat us like idiots. The stuff that PHW and Wenger come out with and fans accept it. How many times have we heard some real insulting crap come from these guys and nothing is done about it? This is the one and only time Sagna has spoken out like this and he's speaking out against the very things we've got a major gripe with. Selling off key players and bad contract management.

The fans need to be more vocal about the way the club is run. Last season, I think 'you don't know what you're doing' chants caught the attention of Gazidis and co. They're now trying to get the fans back on side with some of their moves. The moves are sneaky and manipulative but at least it's some sort of a reaction. The loan deal for Henry was well played. A great PR move and it really lifted the fans for a couple of months. It helped disguise the fact that we didn't buy what we needed during the winter break even though Wenger and Gazidis said money was available to spend and that he'd buy. This summer, they were smart to buy players early and sell later to dupe fans into renewing their season tickets and thinking things have finally changed. Also, they have been smart with the way we've sold players and have leaked certain things that wouldn't usually stay behind closed doors. It's helped to tar the image of certain players and keep the heat of their back. But we can't ease off them. They're aware that the fans are pissed and have been crafty this summer. If it all works out on the pitch and we finally break that cycle, great, but if not, we can't wait another 7 years for these picks to get their act together.

[Alpha]

Sagna was moaning about not being offered a contract as next year he will have 1 year left. He's a top defender, really, and we probably should move quickly to try to tie him down. If it doesn't work, oh well - at least we tried. He does have this tendency to pick up long injury spells but we've got to take a gamble on that I suppose.

And that also reminds me - Koscielny only has 3 years left on his contract. Next summer he'll only have 2. And then then he'll go away with the French World Cup squad with only a year or so remaining. How the fuck haven't we offered him a new contract yet? The club need to wake the fuck up. We can't keep allowing this to happen!

I don't think you are naive enough to believe every thing these people put on your ears . Bottom line is player and club are playing dog and cat to fool the fans who are funding their profit .
When a player starts making noise , the only thing which should cross your mind is they want more money . We can see where Sagna is coming from . All his friend are now getting more than 120 grands a week . Why will he still want on 60 grands ?