Totally bollox do u think the board will want to loose money not a chance if they can make money he will be sold over Wenger's head.Originally Posted by Save me Jeebus!
Totally bollox do u think the board will want to loose money not a chance if they can make money he will be sold over Wenger's head.
Everyone in football knows what changes need to be made except Wenger.
And that's the root of our problems at the moment.
The King Is Back.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...%A327m-banker/ARSENE WENGER believes he has credit in the bank with the Arsenal board with which to keep Samir Nasri.
Financially, that may be the case. But Wenger’s trophy count went into the red some time ago and he must now realise it is win or bust if he goes ahead with his £27 million Nasri gamble.
The Arsenal board already know they could save £4m in wages and receive a £23m transfer fee from either Manchester City or United if they cut loose Nasri now.
It seems inconceivable that the board would allow Wenger to put them in such a position if they were not already in advanced negotiations with Barcelona to sell £35m-rated Cesc Fabregas.
Despite the club’s repeated insistence that Wenger has had money to spend, he has always shied away from splashing the really big cash because he knew it would change expectations.
With £30m transfer fees comes greater pressure, but Wenger will effectively sign up to being judged against the big spenders if he writes off a similar amount of money to keep Nasri.
Should Nasri walk away for nothing in 12 months and Arsenal once again finish the season empty-handed, Wenger will come under far greater scrutiny and his position could be under serious threat.
Asked how the club can afford to keep Nasri if he does not sign a new contract, Wenger said: “The message we give out is important. If Fabregas and Nasri leave you cannot pretend you are a big club.
“A big club first of all holds on to its big players and gives a message out to all the other big clubs that they just cannot come in and take them away from you.
“Imagine the worst situation – we lose Fabregas and Nasri. You cannot convince people you are ambitious after that. We have worked very hard with these players for years to develop them and now it’s time for us to keep them together.
“You are the same people who reproach me for not spending money and now you reproach me for wanting to spend it. To find a player of the same quality as Nasri you have to spend the same amount of money, because you cannot lose the player and not replace him.
“Players like him, who are a cut above, are not easy to find today because they are already at big clubs and not available or nobody knows them at the moment.”
With Arsenal on tour in Kuala Lumpur, where they play a friendly against Malaysia tomorrow, there was a desperation about Wenger’s attempt to convince sponsors and overseas fans the club could still hold on to Fabregas.
Skipper Fabregas has stayed in England and returned to training from a hamstring injury, but remains desperate to rejoin Barca and the European champions are planning a third bid they are hoping will be successful this week. Nicklas Bendtner has also missed the tour and is close to sealing a move to Borussia Dortmund.
“I think Cesc has always been torn between his love for Arsenal – that I feel is really genuine – and, understandably, the desire to play for the biggest team at the moment in the world,” said Wenger. “I hope he will see that there will be no greater achievement for him in his life than to lead this team to success and that it will not be the right period for him to leave.
“We want Cesc to be with us, but we also want him to be happy with us. We are desperate to keep Cesc and we will fight for everything because you do not educate a player for eight years, as we have done, only to want him to go once he is at an age to deliver.
“It’s not a question of money. We are not there to make the money. We are there to keep our best players and manage well for the club to be in a position to say ‘no’ – for any money.” Wenger, though, acknowledged a line needs to be quickly drawn under the Fabregas saga, adding: “At the moment, you are in a no-man’s land and that is terrible. We have to stop at some stage. So I hope we can close that very quickly in our favour.”
The Gunners confirmed the signing of striker Gervinho from Lille yesterday and, when Robin van Persie, who will captain Arsenal against Malaysia, was asked if some big-name signings should be added, he said: “Why not? They would be more than welcome. Every other team is buying quality players so, hopefully, we will do the same.
“You need investment to keep up because, when you look around, Man City are buying loads of good players, Liverpool are doing it now and Man United have been doing it for years.”
Wenger’s credit rating at Arsenal has always been unquestionable. But trophies are the only currency against which he will be judged from now on.‘The message is that if Nasri and Fabregas leave you cannot pretend you are a big club’
Its not bollox though, check out the AST summary thread. They said the same thing.
Disgraceful.
No i mean AW thinking he would be allowed to let Nasri run his contract down and loose the board money
Oh right
Yeh, too right!
That's just dumb. How can the trophy count go into the red?
Ouch. Mid-table here we come!
Right. Dunno if someone can answer me this, but if this is all about business, then why are we not doing what business does. Invest, invest, invest.
Why are we not securing a short-term loan of say 50mil, even if our billionnaire owners don't want to spend anything.
I mean, the quality we could buy using that money, and the impending departure of Fabregas "at some point" would offset that easily.
They talk about investing for the future. But we aren't investing. We're playing with potential....which I wouldn't have a problem with, if that wasn't all we were doing.
If Wenger wants to blow 20mil on Nasri for one years service, then why the fuck weren't we offering him that same value in wages to secure him for another four years?? I'm dead against that btw, as I don't believe we should be held to ransom by the lesbo cunt....but what AW is doing in this situation is beyond ridiculous.
Last edited by LDG; 12-07-2011 at 09:16 AM.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
will wenger budge though?
will that cunt of a man actually chuck out his ego and do what is necessary. Do you think he is innocent in all of this?
I think he is the main culprit! He interviewd the CEO didn't he?
The thing is, what he has been doing suits the board! It made them maximise their share value -- so AW could and can do as he pleases! They can't force him to do anything.
All he has to say is -- look, I have made you guys rich and you have not recorded a loss, ever; so gtfo of my face. " I will do it my way".
‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’
The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!
This.
The situation is becoming more evident now that Wenger's ego is the problem, some suspected it all along.
Arsene was kind of on track with the above quote until the end, the part I've highlighted in bold tells me that he is still too wrapped up in his Youth Project, he just can't let it go can he?Asked how the club can afford to keep Nasri if he does not sign a new contract, Wenger said: “The message we give out is important. If Fabregas and Nasri leave you cannot pretend you are a big club.
“A big club first of all holds on to its big players and gives a message out to all the other big clubs that they just cannot come in and take them away from you.
“Imagine the worst situation – we lose Fabregas and Nasri. You cannot convince people you are ambitious after that. We have worked very hard with these players for years to develop them and now it’s time for us to keep them together.
Arsene's Youth Project has fallen apart anyway...Cesc & Nasri leaving will truly cement it, Arsene knows this hence why he's defiant in his stance on those two staying at the club. I find it ironic that he states that Big clubs need to keep hold of their best players as a sign of intent, but he doesn't mention anything of big clubs investing in players, you know why? Because it's not part of his ideology.
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