The Liverpool Thread 2017/2018 featuring Jurgen Klopp

[Ollie the Optimist]

Even if he was mislead at the time, a decent journalist (and I say that knowing he was at the Sun and there is little to no chance of being a decent journalist there) would try and corroborate that information without just printing highly inflammatory lies for the sales.

And even then, he continued right up to today saying basically that he had no sympathy with the families and that he was never sorry for what he said.

He can rot.

you can tell his apology today means nothing because in 2006, he said he wasnt sorry before he wont be sorry later, he stands by what he said. he also said the only reason he apolgised before was because murdoch told him too.


by point though about false infomation is not to excuse him, but show the extent the cover up went. you are right though a decent journalist would have double checked it

[Fats]

Totally agree with Letters. We were playing I think Newcastle that day when the news started coming through at half time.

IMO no one person or organisation is completely to blame. Letters Is right we lived in a different world. Liverpool were one of the worst for crowd violence back then and were not blameless.

I would like to know what the victims families call justice as I believe no public money should be used as compensation. Money will not bring anyone back and regardless of accountability so what do they want.

I am sure any of the police and authorities had no intention of causing such an awful event.

RIP the victims and families but the witch hunt has now got to stop.

[Letters]

someone made an interesting point on twitter.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

LFC Camden ?

[Marc Overmars]

[V-Pig]

Simon Price, Liverpool-supporting pop critic, just wrote on Twitter
"Alan Davies got anything to say?"

Presumably in reference to Alan Davies questioning why Liverpool didn't want to play on the Hillsborough anniversary. Which you might think is a legitimate question. But you can't question things like that. It doesn't matter if Alan Davies also "the Hillsborough disaster was the worst event in modern peacetime history. I was on a terrace listening to a radio as it happened."
All that matters is that he asked why.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Yeah, bringing that up as a +1 is lame. That reaction compounded by the rejection of his donation to the HJC did not show certain people in a good light. More petty and going after completely the wrong person for the sake of it.

[north bank nutter]

So whats been established today, the police and emergency services covered up some massive fuck ups on the day something we all know, but I guess that gives a certain degree of closure for the families of the bereaved.

As far as I am concerned all parties are to blame, the police for letting the scousers in so close to the kick off, the FA for allocating that end to the scousers when they had many more supporters than Nottm Forest, Sheffield Wednesday who despite the fact they knew the leppings lane end was a death trap did nothing to address the issue AND the scousers who turned up late, drunk and ticketless, where prepared to do anything to get in. To say the scousers where sober, orderly and well behaved is ridiculous.

One of my vivid memories of the 80s apart from the heysel massacre, was scousers climbing walls at wembley stadium to get into the terraces for the merseyside cup final. This shows the limits they would go to.

As someone else mentioned we where playing newcastle that day, when it emerged people had died at hillsborough the gooners in the north bank instantly thought it's scousers doing it again. Highbury used to hold 54-56,000, it wasnt comfortable when it was that packed out but you never thought you would die and the atmosphere was electric, in anycase arsenal refused to have fences in front of the north bank and the clock end. Good on them.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

If anyone is interested I'm currently watching the ITV documentary that was on the other day which may shed some light on things.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Simon Price, Liverpool-supporting pop critic, just wrote on Twitter
"Alan Davies got anything to say?"

Presumably in reference to Alan Davies questioning why Liverpool didn't want to play on the Hillsborough anniversary. Which you might think is a legitimate question. But you can't question things like that. It doesn't matter if Alan Davies also "the Hillsborough disaster was the worst event in modern peacetime history. I was on a terrace listening to a radio as it happened."
All that matters is that he asked why.

two completely different things and you cant compare them imo. today was about the truth of what happened, davies just asked why tehy dont play on that day. two seperate issues imo.

also davies brought up the point of why they dont refuse to play to on other dates such as heysel were liverpool fans died. united play on the munich date if that falls on matchday etc.