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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Sagna took the cash, he should shut his hole, bend over and take it up the arse because that's what he signed up for. That's what the cash is for. Poor **** is only a mediocre footballer so the money is not for that, right?
    Errm.... NQ --- sagna has no say in the way AFC is ran, does he? Or do you know something we don't?
    And the last time I checked, no player has single-handedly carried a mediocre bunch of team mates to glory over a course of tortous season such as in football-- certainly not in any credible team sport; and certainly not from the full-back position, in football.

    Sagna was signed to play for AFC --- and he signed from Auxerre probably under the assumption that he was moving up professionally. He's realised, like many others before him, that AFC leads nowhere. How is he complicit in the con Wenger & Co. have perpetrated? I think your analogy is not sound in this case. Is he merely guilty by association then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Despite popular belief, most players aren't just happy to sit there an win nothing whilst picking up their paycheck. Sure there are some that are but generally a good player will want to pick up trophies in his career.

    If you don't offer a chance of success money will only get you so far.

    We don't just lose our best players because of money, we lose them because we're happy with 4th place and aren't too bothered about success, they may well get a pay rise as well but that's not the main reason in most cases.
    If I'm not happy in my job - I move on.

    If Sagna aint happy - he should cut the crap and put in a transfer request - from the treatment table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    If I'm not happy in my job - I move on.

    If Sagna aint happy - he should cut the crap and put in a transfer request - from the treatment table.
    maybe he is gonna?
    and in your job, i doubt you are interviewed by the press at every turn.

    Honestly, i don't even see what was wrong with what he said. Wenger has said the same kind of stuff in the press. And Wenger has repeatedly insulted the fans who pay his ridiculous salary, in the press. This world is different from the real working world
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    Quote Originally Posted by gooners View Post
    maybe he is gonna?
    and in your job, i doubt you are interviewed by the press at every turn.

    Honestly, i don't even see what was wrong with what he said. Wenger has said the same kind of stuff in the press. And Wenger has repeatedly insulted the fans who pays his ridiculous salary, in the press. This world is different from the real working world
    I get asked many things by clients. If I act unprofessionally when dealing with them and undermine my employer, I'll face sanction. But it isn't about me - it is a common occurrence in the working environment.

    I don't disagree with what he said - but I disagree with him saying it. And he probably won't put in a transfer request - it compromises his loyalty bonus and I doubt there will be a multitude of suitors for him while in the treatment room.

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    no doubt it was a play to garner an attractive offer from arsenal for a final pay day and if its not up to what he wants, others will come in with better terms and he'll be off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    no doubt it was a play to garner an attractive offer from arsenal for a final pay day and if its not up to what he wants, others will come in with better terms and he'll be off.
    he will get a far better wage at city/chelsea/utd and even pool without saying anything if he is for sale or actually wants out.

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    Totally right. People go on about money here but professional sportsman are competitive and want to win things. WE DONT WIN THINGS ANYMORE THATS WHY THEY WANT TO LEAVE
    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Despite popular belief, most players aren't just happy to sit there an win nothing whilst picking up their paycheck. Sure there are some that are but generally a good player will want to pick up trophies in his career.

    If you don't offer a chance of success money will only get you so far.

    We don't just lose our best players because of money, we lose them because we're happy with 4th place and aren't too bothered about success, they may well get a pay rise as well but that's not the main reason in most cases.

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    I think this Wengeritis or Arsenalitis disease is affecting even us fans. ARSENAL are a SPORTING enterprise not a cotton bud manufacturer so all this stuff about analogy to corporations and company/client priviledges is absolute guff. Sagna voiced the same concerns that we FANS have been moaning about for years that we are no longer set up to win trophies and people go out of their way to castigate him for it, calling him an average injury plagued player, when in reality he has for 5 seasons been our most CONSISTENT player in his position and has only been seriously injured last season in six years. The basic fact is that this club is NOT set up to win special trophies, hell we cannot even win the tiddlywink ones again. The same rationale that RVP used to leave us is what Sagna has spoken out on, the difference being that the ungrateful dutchman levered his way out while Sagna is not in a position to do so. Sagna too is wondering if he will leave here in 2 years time having been sold a story at 24 about a team going places only to see that 4th place is our self imposed ceiling.

    You could argue that Sagna sparked the salvage of last season with his goal against the spuds. I for one believe that without that comeback and win in that game we would be talking about UEFA cup games now now CL. We should not in our frustration simply lash out at any convenient target and should instead refocus on what is the true source of our agony. Wenger and his continued delusions and our club management who thinks winning is a bridge too far and are falling over themselves now to extend Wenger`s contract for maybe another 5 years. Can you imagine another 7 years of this shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Despite popular belief, most players aren't just happy to sit there an win nothing whilst picking up their paycheck. Sure there are some that are but generally a good player will want to pick up trophies in his career.
    As will a good manager but that's the exact lazy accusation you and others level at Wenger.
    As always, shifting the goalposts to suit your argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    As will a good manager but that's the exact lazy accusation you and others level at Wenger.
    As always, shifting the goalposts to suit your argument.
    Wenger seems quite happy not winning, 7 years of it and no change in policy, still selling his best players and never doing enough in the transfer market. Sorry but noone can tell me he's doing everything he can to win as he clearly isn't, on top of that he hails 3rd and 4th place as if we'd won the CL.

    A manager who isn't content with what's happening makes changes, he never does.

    Players at least do something about it, they move to a club with a much better chance of winning and more focussed on success.

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