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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    It's not a cop out. It's stating the obvious that we don't know what's going on in Wenger's head, we don't really know what's going on in the club.
    Wenger doesn't seem to be content with us not winning. You can see in his reactions he's not content. Why he doesn't do more about that? There are plenty of possible reasons. I've suggested a few. The idea that it's because he's happy with how things are going is probably the least plausible. Not just because of his reactions when things aren't going well but also because, as you said yourself:



    Especially a manager who has been used to winning trophies as he has. Are you suggesting that anyone who stays in a job or relationship when things don't seem to be going well is doing so because they're happy in that situation? There's no other possible explanation?
    it's a cop out. we may not know exactly whats going on at the club but we have a pretty clear indication. asking every possible question then giving every possible answer is not stating the obvious, it's stating what you want to be the obvious.

    your whole argument is based on wengers reactions on the touchline and press conferences. you've just alluded to it once again. you've yet to give a meaningful explanation as to why you think wenger wants to win trophies and what evidence suggests he's actively trying to reach those goals, apart from him waving his arms around

    in fact under your argument, wenger falls into 2 categories:

    1. insane
    2. chronically insane

    not only have we won nothing for 7 years but he still doesn't do anything constructive about it. even though as you say, he shows plenty of 'emotion on the touchline' so is clearly aware of the problems. in fact, he does the complete opposite by selling our best players every year! thats madness, pure WUMmery! he's happy to constantly sell our best players, not add sufficient depth and rebuild every 2 years. this goes against the perceived winning mentality in the modern football industry. there's another prize monsieur can claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    If I'm not happy in my job - I move on.

    If Sagna aint happy - he should cut the crap and put in a transfer request - from the treatment table.

    This. Why has Sagna not handed one if if he is so "unhappy" If he is not then he needs to stfu till he leaves the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    This

    For all the talk about hes being restricted b the board and he cant do what he wants, doesnt stop him from signing new contracts over the last 7 years.

    Wenger sympathizers on here do not really have much to go on

    WTF has signing a contract have to do with being given money to spend on players ? of course the decsion to sign a contract would rest with him like any person in a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner View Post
    you've yet to give a meaningful explanation as to why you think wenger wants to win trophies.
    I don't need to. You yourself said that every manager wants to be successful. I agree. That is obvious.
    So if you believe that Wenger doesn't (contrary to your own assertion that every manager does) then the burden of proof is on you to show that, not me.

    Why isn't he doing more about it? I don't know. As I said I've suggested some thoughts but none of us really know. It's not a cop-out to say that, it's obviously true. But it's obviously not because he's happy about not winning trophies for so long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner View Post
    it's a cop out. we may not know exactly whats going on at the club but we have a pretty clear indication. asking every possible question then giving every possible answer is not stating the obvious, it's stating what you want to be the obvious.

    your whole argument is based on wengers reactions on the touchline and press conferences. you've just alluded to it once again. you've yet to give a meaningful explanation as to why you think wenger wants to win trophies and what evidence suggests he's actively trying to reach those goals, apart from him waving his arms around

    in fact under your argument, wenger falls into 2 categories:

    1. insane
    2. chronically insane

    not only have we won nothing for 7 years but he still doesn't do anything constructive about it. even though as you say, he shows plenty of 'emotion on the touchline' so is clearly aware of the problems. in fact, he does the complete opposite by selling our best players every year! thats madness, pure WUMmery! he's happy to constantly sell our best players, not add sufficient depth and rebuild every 2 years. this goes against the perceived winning mentality in the modern football industry. there's another prize monsieur can claim.
    Yep i saw the look of joy in his face when we lost the carling cup happiest man in the stadium he was.

    Still Wenger out tbh.
    Last edited by Olivier's xmas twist; 14-09-2012 at 12:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    I disagree, he's gone 7 years without a trophy now, IMO that calls for a drastic change in policy...he's never shown any inclination to make the changes.

    It's easy to say he hates losing etc etc, but what does he actually do to stop the rot other than rant and rave on the sidelines?
    in the last 12 months there has been, he kicked project youth out, and brought in project buy experienced good players. thats a pretty drastic change

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I don't need to. You yourself said that every manager wants to be successful. I agree. That is obvious.
    So if you believe that Wenger doesn't (contrary to your own assertion that every manager does) then the burden of proof is on you to show that, not me.

    Why isn't he doing more about it? I don't know. As I said I've suggested some thoughts but none of us really know. It's not a cop-out to say that, it's obviously true. But it's obviously not because he's happy about not winning trophies for so long.
    ultimate cop out.

    you're whole argument is based upon wenger throwing his arms in the air on the touchline. ive asked you on countless times to provide substantial evidence to back it up but zilch. you keep referring back to his emotions. in this modern age emotion is nothing unless its backed up by action.

    the thing you and wenger have in common is this incredible ability to say something but never prove it.

    crawl back into your cave, like i knew you would after a while.

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    Hey Letters!

    You're an asshole!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    Hey Letters!

    You're an asshole!!
    I'll just get back in my cave, shall I?

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