If you couldn't care less if others play it or not, why did you bring it (Citeh playing 4-4-2) up? We didn't change the formation because of Cesc but because Wenger knows english 4-4-2 is getting found out.. Also don't be naive, our 4-4-1-1 was never traditional 4-4-2 with one striker drifting wide or deep in midfield.Originally Posted by Ach
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You play the system that suits the players you have, as we don't really have the players to play a 4-4-2 it would be stupid to even think about it.
If you couldn't care less if others play it or not, why did you bring it (Citeh playing 4-4-2) up? We didn't change the formation because of Cesc but because Wenger knows english 4-4-2 is getting found out.. Also don't be naive, our 4-4-1-1 was never traditional 4-4-2 with one striker drifting wide or deep in midfield.
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Strikers might get very few opportunities in a match and really have to finish 1 in 3 to make a serious impact. That's not Walcott. 1 in 10 on a good day, you can't rely on inconsistency like that in such a key position. Plus his positional play is lousy. Even if we started lobbing it over the top and letting him use his pace, he seems to choke whenever he has to make a decision. So one on one with the last defender or the keeper and you'd bet on Theo to lose. His best role is in a foot race against an inferior full back. Then you hope he beats the odds with the final ball.
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The day of pacey striker out running the CBs are long gone, nowadays it is all about possession and good intelligent counter attack.
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Some would say the 4-5-1 hasnt suited our players bar Cesc and then RVP. It brought out the best in them but not the team.
Cos you were so adamant that others dont play it so i just shut you up by stating the champions of the league that we play in do play the 4-4-2.If you couldn't care less if others play it or not, why did you bring it (Citeh playing 4-4-2) up? We didn't change the formation because of Cesc but because Wenger knows english 4-4-2 is getting found out.. Also don't be naive, our 4-4-1-1 was never traditional 4-4-2 with one striker drifting wide or deep in midfield.
But yeah i dont care if others play it or not. I care about Arsenal only and history suggests that we win trophies with 4-4-2/4-4-1-1 whatever but win shit with anything else
Finishing is not Theo's problem IMO, but rather his skills in other department.. ie holding up the ball, dribbling and decision making are his biggest issue. He could have easily assist Giroud yesterday but he fecked it up.. if it was 0-0, fans would be fuming at him.
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Can we move the conversation on stop judging Theo as a winger? Wenger keeps saying his future is as a striker and I'm more curious to see if Wenger will play him there one day. He's been on the bench most games but was still in the right place at the right time and took his goal on his weakest foot. He shouldn't be out on the wings and it sucks to think we're having this conversation after just scoring from the bench. Why hasn't he signed a new deal? I suspect it could be down to this sort of thing. He gets no respect from the press, pundits or even his own fans. When he signed for Arsenal, I suspect he and his dad trusted Wenger to steer his career in the right direction. This constant criticism must be fucking with him. He gets hammered every time but keeps popping to try and prove people wrong with his goals but it's never enough.
NQ....you're blinkered sometimes. Everything seems to boil down to greed and money with you and you ignore the football aspect far too much. Players can often get pissed off when played out of position and if Wenger is saying it's not about money and he hasn't given up on Theo, then what is it? I get the feeling Theo wants his shot up front, but Wenger has said he has competition and it means he'll be on the bench and not an automatic starter. Theo may have agreed and said he wants his shot. I could be wrong but if we're saying Wenger only wants committed players and has taken off the gloves, why sell RVP and Song, players worth more to the club but keep Theo? It's worth thinking about.
Was just watching Defoe's goals and listening to Hoddle talk about him and that's the sort of striker Theo should be. People say he has no brain and all that nonsense but his intellgence shows with his well timed runs and the way he knows how to beat a keeper. There is an art to being clincal and knowing how to out fox a keeper. Different striking techniques such as hitting the ball with different sides of the boot, going for dinks, lofted shots, taking shots early...i've seen Theo demonstrate a lot the techniques i've seen top class finishers like Wright, Defoe, Owen and Eduardo have pulled off. He should have been spending his years sharpening up on that but Wenger doesn't like that sort of striker and it's why he shifted Wright out so early and never goes for that type of player. They always need to do more on the edge of the box. We'll see what happens with Theo, but if i was Theo's dad and had to listen to the constant bashing, I'd think back to the conversation i first had with Arsene about his career and i wouldn't be pleased. Isn't Theo's agent his dad? Regardless, if people keep saying he has no brain and hasn't developed, Arsene has to take a lot of the flak because Theo doesn't come across as the sort that doesn't listen and won't knuckle down.
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The all hallowed 4-2-1-3-1?
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