If they stayed....(Nasri & Fabregas)?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Ive said that Nasri can stay.......but if he is being promised some kind of special 'wait and see how things pan out' contract then I am seriously ready to torch the place.......we cannot be dictated to, quite the opposite, if he doesnt want to play for us then let him go preferably to a non-rival and for as much money as possible

Cesc on the other hand is always going to go on of these days, tbh I'm fed up of the stories and want just shid of the whole affair......if we sell him so be it (yes I know footballing sense its not the best move but why not get it over with and start to build again)

[Kano]

"Nasri, no. I don't think he's coming to United," said Ferguson. "I think he's agreed to go somewhere else. Maybe he has to stay at Arsenal too. That's a possibility."

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/100589.html

[Toronto Gooner]

How could he have been more up front about it?

If he had told his friends to STFU and they didn't listen, are you going to blame him for it?

Sorry Boss but I do not buy that. In the case of being up front, why not put in a transfer request? And with friends like that, who needs enemies?

[ElusiveGooner]

What happened to the days when a club was bigger than a player?? Good grief! The noise coming out of Wenger at the moment about not wanting to lose our best players is avoiding the point. If we lose the pair, we should immediately replace them with the best players we can afford. Then move on.

We only have to look at Liverpool to see how it is done. They sold Torres, arguably their best player, and actually improved their team. Wenger should sell both of them to the highest bidder and use the money to immediately replace them.

Unfortuantely, Wenger just does not learn from his mistakes. My hunch is that Nasri will stay for another season. He'll go through the motions, score a couple goals and kiss the badge. But he will not sign another contract with Arsenal.

Cue March 2012 collapse in Arsenal's title challenge, and news that Nasri has signed a contract with Man City for 200k a week on a bosman.

How many French internationals is this guy going to lose for a song before he gets the message?

[IBK]

What happened to the days when a club was bigger than a player?? Good grief! The noise coming out of Wenger at the moment about not wanting to lose our best players is avoiding the point. If we lose the pair, we should immediately replace them with the best players we can afford. Then move on.

We only have to look at Liverpool to see how it is done. They sold Torres, arguably their best player, and actually improved their team. Wenger should sell both of them to the highest bidder and use the money to immediately replace them.

Unfortuantely, Wenger just does not learn from his mistakes. My hunch is that Nasri will stay for another season. He'll go through the motions, score a couple goals and kiss the badge. But he will not sign another contract with Arsenal.

Cue March 2012 collapse in Arsenal's title challenge, and news that Nasri has signed a contract with Man City for 200k a week on a bosman.

How many French internationals is this guy going to lose for a song before he gets the message?

Agreed. there comes a point where you have to accept the inevitable and move on. Keeping Nasri would be a phyrric victory, because if he wants out now, I just can't see us getting an additional £20M out of him in his last season. And in terms of PR/status the damage is done anyway if its common knowledge that he wants to play elsewhere. The Fabregas saga over the past couple of years hasn't exactly enhanced our standing as a club, has it?

I'm afraid that this smacks of AW going through the same Groundhog Day - the belief that if he puts off these departures, then suddenly; magically, the team will blossom and then then they will want to stay. I'm all for continuity, but we do also need to remember that these payers were part of the team that has collapsed habitually. We should not be scared of moving on - provided the talent is brought in.

[IBK]

Ive said that Nasri can stay.......but if he is being promised some kind of special 'wait and see how things pan out' contract then I am seriously ready to torch the place.......we cannot be dictated to, quite the opposite, if he doesnt want to play for us then let him go preferably to a non-rival and for as much money as possible

Cesc on the other hand is always going to go on of these days, tbh I'm fed up of the stories and want just shid of the whole affair......if we sell him so be it (yes I know footballing sense its not the best move but why not get it over with and start to build again)

I don't think he is being offered a contract, but for sure Wenger is trying to convince him that the coming season will change his mind...just like he did with fabregas last year.

[Alan B'stard]

How would you feel?

if they are professional and want to play? fine.

[Özim]

Don't have a problem with then staying, do however have a problem with losing Nasri on a free when we seem to spend next to nothing on transfers, losing his transfer fee would surely leave us with even less spending.

Personally if he doesn't want to sign a new contract I'd cash in and get a quality replacement in, not ideal but at least we can re-invest....if we lose him for nothing we lose a quality player and don't have the money to spend to replace him.

[Özim]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14088970.stm

Arsenal boss Wenger prepared to lose Nasri for free

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is prepared to lose Samir Nasri on a free transfer next summer rather than sell him now.

Nasri, 24, has 12 months left on his contract and BBC Sport understands Manchester United made an offer of almost £20m for the midfielder in June.

"I'm willing to keep him for another year, even if it means we risk losing him for nothing in a year's time," said Wenger, whose side are in Malaysia.

"I think the board agrees with me as it is a technical decision."

He added: "Our goal is to win the championship and we need good players to do that."

Wenger was delighted with Nasri's performance in a 4-0 win over a Malaysia XI on Wednesday.

"Samir has always been committed to the team and we saw that today," Wenger said. "He did very well coming off the bench."

Arsenal play in China on Saturday before flying back to Europe.

Nasri has so far refused to sign a new contract with Arsenal and has also been linked with Chelsea and Manchester City.

Wenger is reluctant to see one of his key performers - a player he would like as a cornerstone of a rebuilt Arsenal team - move to a Premier League rival.

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson, however, is determined to strengthen his midfield after the retirement of Paul Scholes and with Ryan Giggs coming to the end of his career.

Tottenham's Luka Modric and Inter Milan's Wesley Sneijder have been touted as possible targets for Ferguson, but the fact that United have made a firm offer for Nasri suggests they are optimistic that a deal can be done, despite Wenger's determination not to sell - and especially to Old Trafford.

Arsenal have offered Nasri an improved, long-term deal at the Emirates and were confident he would sign towards the end of last season, but doubts have grown throughout the summer, encouraging suitors that they can prise him away from north London.

So he wants to hold onto Nasri as we want to win the title.

I've got news for him, he's got two hopes, Bob hope and no hope!

He's barely strenghtened, is going to rely on a crock at full back and seems quite happy with everything despite the calamity that is last season (apparently we've got something to prove - thing is this team aren't capable of proving anything as they don't have the motivation or bottle let's face it).

So basically he's happy to p*ss 20 million up the wall on a whim.

[LDG]

Bob Hope would cost too much; and we already have one hope, so why would we need another one