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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    He is essentially saying that nothing is going to change. Which is pretty much what I expected at the end of the season.
    How do you figure that from "we conceded too many goals on set-pieces and that is where we want to improve this season.”



    Whether he'll actually do anything to fix that problem, well, I'm not holding my breath. But he's acknowledged an obvious problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    How do you figure that from "we conceded too many goals on set-pieces and that is where we want to improve this season.”



    Whether he'll actually do anything to fix that problem, well, I'm not holding my breath. But he's acknowledged an obvious problem.
    So hang on a second just because he says we need to improve at set pieces it's fine?

    Our problems aren't just at set pieces either btw, several times last season a hoof ball over the top beat the whole defence, that's ignoring all the individual errors.

    I don't see how him coming out with a few hollow words is good enough, I mean I could say I'm going to win the lottery but without buying a ticket I don't have much chance.

    Actions speak louder than words at the end of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    How do you figure that from "we conceded too many goals on set-pieces and that is where we want to improve this season.”



    Whether he'll actually do anything to fix that problem, well, I'm not holding my breath. But he's acknowledged an obvious problem.
    Saying it, and doing something about it are two different things.

    What faith do you expect me to have in any thing improving when there are no changes (other than one out) in our defensive coaching and playing staff?
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    There's always an area we're weak in defensively, sure it can be pointed towards us conceding a lot on set pieces last season but I am fairly sure the season before, the reverse was true - we mainly conceded from open play.

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    what a douche

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    Of course we're weak defensively. He can dress it up however he wants to make it sound politically correct and in context, it's pedantic nonsense. Anyone who's seen this team over the past 5 years knows exactly how vulnerable we are under pressure at the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss View Post
    Wenger in January



    Wenger in May



    Wenger in June



    He needs to shut his fucking mouth.


    Teg

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    Saying it, and doing something about it are two different things.

    What faith do you expect me to have in any thing improving when there are no changes (other than one out) in our defensive coaching and playing staff?
    There is no point in even getting into this.

    Just a few days ago, we were discussing Wenger's comments about us being an offensive team and not needing to change our philosophy. Now he's saying we have good players and we're not defensively weak. So his philosophy won't change and neither will the personnel. How are we going to progress if we're doing nothing about either.

    This is the pattern. If Wenger fails to sign a player in the summer or it starts looking really unlikely, he starts g'ing up the current players in the squad to get them mentally prepared for the season. He did the same with Almunia when he knew he couldn't bring in a goal keeper.

    This reverse psychology shit isn't working. Wenger can pull the Jedi mind tricks on the young and naive, put on as much as front as he wants for the press and fans, but there will always be that collective voice of decent in the dressing room. How the players feel is what counts and he's in denial. Just read the interview about Cesc and Nasri and how he believes they are committed and will stay but could go or their hearts are torn...etc. It's full of contradictions and he's taking a huge risk. Again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Vela View Post
    Tbf, he did buy two defenders and shipped out 3 last season so he is changing things it just didn't work last summer as it just isn't enough to bring in a few more defenders (except for Samba, he can defend set-pieces by himself), we need more height and organisation/determination at set-pieces in the entire team rather than a few guys who have to do it all themselves, ofc the organisation is pretty much his problem so he's made that bed to lie in.
    Problem is he took an unnecessary risk gambling on potential and effectively a cast off.

    We would have been better off spending the combined amount that we spent on Kos & Squillaci by purchasing a top quality defender who can bring leadership qualities to the team. Arsene is always trying to cut corners.

    P.S. I totally agree with you re: Organisation etc.
    Last edited by selassie; 14-07-2011 at 06:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann View Post
    Lies, damn lies, statistics.

    Goals per game conceded (all comps)
    06-07 0.90
    07-08 0.91
    08-09 0.89
    09-10 1.15
    10-11 1.10

    Not sure if this is significant but this coincides with our change to 4-3-3.
    To outward appearances personnel is the major factor in our defence, but I can't remember who our main guys were for 08-09 and 09-10.

    Was it Kolo-Gallas and Gallas-TommyV?

    Also last season.
    Goals per game conceded (all comps pre Carling debacle)
    0.95

    Goals per game conceded (all comps post Carling debacle)
    1.53

    This suggests something or other.
    Ahh Finally! I do think that we have become a pile of shit once we changed to 4-3-3. 07/08 season when we came the closest, we played with Ade and one other striker. I think we should play that this season with RVP and Chakma or RVP/Wally

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