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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    if he signs a contract, he'll play a lot more than he is now - wenger likes him but is showing tough love now. he has racked up more than enough appearances and his stats will ensure he is the prime wide man on most occasions.

    there is nowhere bar a huge drop down the league for him to go - unless he wants to take several steps back in terms of playing time to become a bit part striker in a big team, its midtable or bust.
    Or Europe. Whether he's technically good enough is another matter though.
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    RVP played as a striker for us from the get go. He wasn't an out an out striker, used to play deeper, but he was always a striker and not playing on the wings for us, where he struggled. RVP's intelligence or ability were never under constant scrutiny. It was just his fitness. Theo's right not to trust Wenger on this because he's the type of manager that is quite happy to play a player out of position until they totally break down and lose confidence. See Eboue, see Vela, see Denilson, see Bendtner. Look at where he's playing Ramsey now and Gervinho. This is the way he works and I don't see that changing. He's signed wingers and strikers and that puts more pressure on Theo and he could find himself in a position where he's forever rated as an impact player. Not a striker or winger.

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    rvp used to be stuck out on the left of a 442.

    look, if theo has no trust for a man that has developed him for 7 years then that says more about himself than wenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    rvp used to be stuck out on the left of a 442.

    look, if theo has no trust for a man that has developed him for 7 years then that says more about himself than wenger.
    No he was not. He had a brief period where he played on the left in a 4-3-3 but he was never a left winger for us.

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    this is a side argument but you're wrong. we had a 442 back then, he used to be a left winger and was used there quite a lot but was very ineffective - he also used to start there for holland too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    rvp used to be stuck out on the left of a 442.

    look, if theo has no trust for a man that has developed him for 7 years then that says more about himself than wenger.
    I've got to question where you're coming from on this. Haven't we just seen a host of promising youth players chopped from the squad? Didn't they fail. Surely, Theo has to look at that and take it into consideration. Even the fans are questioning Wenger's judgement on players signed and his tactical choices. I'd say it says a lot more about Wenger's ability, which has come under intense scrutiny over the past year or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    But he's signed other wingers, strikers and is only offering Walcott squad money. The fact that Wenger has frozen out one of our best performers from the squad for so long suggests he thinks he's replaceable.
    Athletic Bilbao have "frozen" Llorente out of the team, does it mean they don't rate him then. Just like Theo until he signs a deal he won't be played, cause, they won't want him in the team just for him to bugger of in a few months.

    Find it funny because people said, we should have kept RVP and if he was not happy put him in the reserves. Soon as the club get strict with theo its all complaints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    this is a side argument but you're wrong. we had a 442 back then, he used to be a left winger and was used there quite a lot but was very ineffective - he also used to start there for holland too.
    No he never used to start there for Holland either. He used to start on the right of a 4-3-3 for Holland under Van Basten.

    RVP has always played behind the striker for us. He had one brief season where he played down the left but he never started there. We had Pires and Reyes in the squad when we were playing 4-4-2. Hleb and Diaby probably got more games down the left when we were playing 4-5-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Athletic Bilbao have "frozen" Llorente out of the team, does it mean they don't rate him then. Just like Theo until he signs a deal he won't be played, cause, they won't want him in the team just for him to bugger of in a few months.

    Find it funny because people said, we should have kept RVP and if he was not happy put him in the reserves. Soon as the club get strict with theo its all complaints.
    You need to stop taking one sentence into consideration and start reading the whole argument.

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    I think Wenger would have no reason not to play Walcott as a central striker if Walcott genuinely is capable of being a prolific goalscorer for a top team. Say Theo signs a new contract - if we stand to benefit from Walcott playing as a striker then I'm sure Wenger would play him in that position.

    At the moment, I think Walcott isn't being given a chance. There can be no footballing reasons why a seemingly in-form goalscorer is left out for a team that have struggled to score. Add to that the fact that Gervinho is now injured. So the reason I think Walcott is being left out is because Wenger feels although we would benefit in the short-term by having Walcott score a few goals for us, it will be another big psychological blow and we'd have to start again when he leaves in January. So Wenger thinks we should try to build some momentum and see if Giroud or Podolski or whoever can start finding the net regularly and then we might be on the up for the second half of the season with a settled squad.

    I don't necessarily agree with it but that's the only way I think it makes sense.

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