Match reaction vs the Mancs

[LDG]

Referee was fine

Yes he made couple of mistakes but nothing major.

Cleverley should have been sent off but was warned. He did the same with Wilshere so cant complain. Difference is they have the best manager in the world, he saw a problem and fixed it. We have an awlful one.

The offside thing before the 2nd goal, yes it was offside but the ball went for a corner afterwards therefore the offside decision is null and void. We should have done much better than to let their smallest player get a free header

The penalty was spot on as well

Dean was fine

We were shit and thats why we lost

Agreed.

(zimm and Ach in one day. Jesus.)

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

I suppose my point was more about how Wenger's poor standing with the British media might affect refereeing decisions, not so much whether that reputation is justified or not.

Why give arsenal a 50/50 call when you know sky and espn (who are even worse) are going to lynch you for it.

oh i agree completely. but my point is that wenger has bought it on himself. the media hated him for 'ruining the english national team and flooding england with foreigners' but at the time he was doing that we had one of the best teams england had ever seen. now when wenger takes the piss and rubs them up the wrong way he has a poor team to show for it, so they take full advantage of that.

the media are c*nts but they are just like everyone else- they support teams and have their agendas. the best way to shut them up is by winning but we dont do that. adds fuel to their fire.

[Özim]

I suppose my point was more about how Wenger's poor standing with the British media might affect refereeing decisions, not so much whether that reputation is justified or not.

Why give arsenal a 50/50 call when you know sky and espn (who are even worse) are going to lynch you for it.

Then he needs to look at his actions and how it's affecting his team (if he believes that, which he clearly doesn't).

I think he's lost a lot of respect from a lot of people due to his incessant denial about what actually happens, he use to be a man who was respected and whom people felt had integrity, now he's become a bit of a joke due to the fact he's doesn't live in the real world.

[Niall_Quinn]

I think people are being unrealistic if they think we can go to Old Trafford and win these days. The club's ambitions are clear. They want to finish 4th and you don't need to win at OT to achieve that. We were playing for damage limitation from the first minute. We weren't actually playing to try to win, so why on earth expect it? Time for some people to wake up and smell the coffee.

Didn't ever expect to win or even draw. The ref wasn't needed today but was there to secure a Utd win if we were in any way capable of being a threat. Would like to see us play well though. Get a few crosses in, win a few corners, a bit of pace, stretch their defence from time to time. Just an interesting and entertaining game would be okay.

[topgun]

i wouldn't trust wenger with a £50m transfer kitty.

thats the problem.

My thoughts exactly.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

no fair enough.

however if you were a journalist and you wanted to wind wenger up, surely teh best way to do it is to grill him on tatics, subs etc and watch him squirm.

they need to do that, none of this when will theo sign crap. grill him about tatics

i dunno i think they do ask him those sort of questions, or at least they do much more than they used to. he just chooses to divert the question and talk about positive spirit, mental strength and the constant boner he has when it comes to developing players.

quite an art actually, to be able to chat so much shit yet keep the media half interested in a press conference/interview.

[RomfordPele]

oh i agree completely. but my point is that wenger has bought it on himself. the media hated him for 'ruining the english national team and flooding england with foreigners' but at the time he was doing that we had one of the best teams england had ever seen. now when wenger takes the piss and rubs them up the wrong way he has a poor team to show for it, so they take full advantage of that.

the media are c*nts but they are just like everyone else- they support teams and have their agendas. the best way to shut them up is by winning but we dont do that. adds fuel to their fire.

Yep, it's another reason why wenger is a liability now.

[Power n Glory]

Seeing how we couldn't create much against Norwich and QPR with that team, did Wenger really think we'd do any better against Man Utd with the same set up? What's going through his head? Is he going to pick the exact same squad for Scalke away next week? What he think we'll suddenly click?

I've got no respect for him. Spineless, stubborn and stupid!

[Ollie the Optimist]

Wenger about Vermealen "Vermealen's mistake almost killed the game. Top class defenders never do mistakes"


harsh but actually spot on and complety justified

[gunnerrrrr]

Wenger about Vermealen "Vermealen's mistake almost killed the game. Top class defenders never do mistakes"


harsh but actually spot on and complety justified

Ouch...did he really say that.

Not like Wenger to openly critise his players let alone his captain.....dont think he ever said anything like that about Cesc or RVP when they were captains.