Would you prefer 4th place or winning the League Cup?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

If noone ever makes their feelings clear then we're stuck as we are and nothing will change, PHW and co will continue to laugh at and take the p*ss out of the fans and Wenger will continue to think he's 2% away from domination and entertaining the world.

Oh what a joy!

If your so passionate about a protest, why don't you start one instead of writing moaning like a kid on a forum. You can call Wenger a **** 200 times, makes no diffrence if you don't make a stand.

[Cripps_orig]

I voted league cup but im sure when next season comes round and the CL games are on and we arent in it, i will miss it

Yes i know we will never win it under Wenger and we are a bit shit in it. Only reached the Semi finals twice in all the years we have been in it confirms that and we usually have a piss easy group with no big games.

Not sure what il miss exactly but i will miss it, whatever it is

[Özim]

If your so passionate about a protest, why don't you start one instead of writing moaning like a kid on a forum. You can call Wenger a **** 200 times, makes no diffrence if you don't make a stand.

It's my job to rally the troups not lead them into battle!

[Özim]

Yep and when we do a liverpool and don't ever get back in it, it would make no diffrence.

What about doing a Leeds is that yesterday's trend now?

[Bergkampwonderland10]

What about doing a Leeds is that yesterday's trend now?

No Decent players will join us if we can't offer CL football...oh wait...they don't join us even when we do...so I'd go for league cup for sure.
After that Wenger has won it all domestically so get a new manager in, that doesn't act like a haemorrhoid in the arses of Blatter and Platini and then maybe we wont be penalised by referees for nothing sending offs and non-existent penalties etc. and actually have a fair chance of winning in Europe.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I just don't see why we have to settle for one of the other, we should want both.

[Cripps_orig]

I just don't see why we have to settle for one of the other, we should want both.

Blame Wenger

It should never be a question of wanting one over the other. Go for it all and if we get it then great. If not then fair enough. The fans will understand.

[Özim]

Blame Wenger

It should never be a question of wanting one over the other. Go for it all and if we get it then great. If not then fair enough. The fans will understand.

As I mentioned he use to say we're going for 4 trophies nowadays he says 2......ironically we had more games in those days as the CL had an extra group stage.

We've got enough players, trouble is most of them are sh*t.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Blame Wenger

It should never be a question of wanting one over the other. Go for it all and if we get it then great. If not then fair enough. The fans will understand.

im talking about why threads like this are even made.

[Marc Overmars]

As I mentioned he use to say we're going for 4 trophies nowadays he says 2......ironically we had more games in those days as the CL had an extra group stage.

We've got enough players, trouble is most of them are sh*t.

The problem is that Wenger is not prepared to use his squad (except for cup games), he has his best 11 or 12 players in mind and runs them into the ground even if their performances are not up to standard. In order to compete for everything you need to keep things fresh by trying different things and reacting to consistent poor performances, he doesn't do that. I'm sure Ramsey will play against Fulham despite doing absolutley sod all for weeks.