Wenger Slaughterhouse

[Özim]

Saying 4th place is a trophy and more important than actual trophies is pathetic

Pretty much, the guy is an embarassment to be honest, it's cringeworthy listening to him these days

[Özim]

Of course it is. But these people are completely out of touch with the fans. Not because thety have made a mistake, but because they don't want to be in touch with the fans. Just their wallets.

Wenger is the manager, it's shameful he's out of touch with his own fans...that he supposedly trying to please and entertain....

[Özim]

Yep, once again, Wenger is an employee. He believes he's working miracles grabbing 4th spot and for him that probably is his trophy. His brief, after all, it to make a profit in the transfer window AND produce a team that brings in CL revenue each year. If his brief was to win the title or actually win the CL then obviously he wouldn't consider 4th spot to be a trophy because it wouldn't be acceptable to his bosses on a prolonged basis. Do I think he avoids contradicting his bosses in public? Yes, why not? Every employee does that, apart from the ones who want to be sacked.

Yeah and loses CC finals to Birmingham...he hardly works miracles......he's done OK but too many overhype his performance considering he's failed to deliver anything of substance in 7 years.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

It was totally pathetic...but some people feel sorry for the bloke

Why cause you don't agree with it. So it was pathetic, funny how no one in the media said the same.

[Özim]

Why cause you don't agree with it. So it was pathetic, funny how no one in the media said the same.

Noone in the media cared about what he said, few respect him as they realised a long time ago what he says can largely be discounted....only a section of Arsenal fans live by his every word....most see through him.

[Niall_Quinn]

managers usually love football and get their pleasure from success rather than money

It's easy to say that when the money is a given. Which of them manages their clubs for free? Which of them work for anything like a fair return given the job they do? They are all massively overpaid, like the players. Nobody is doing this for love any more, except maybe naive kids just starting out. When a sport moves form a few quid a week and the sheer privilege of playing for your boyhood club into a multi billion dollar a year industry then don't be surprised when priorities shift. Next year it will be even worse. The TV revenue will be even bigger and I'm pretty damn sure you can inversely map this idea of love to that rising revenue. We're all sitting here bereft because we can't comprehend just how many ****s there are in the game now. Creatures so removed for real life it's impossible for them to understand us or us to understand them.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Noone in the media cared about what he said, few respect him as they realised a long time ago what he says can largely be discounted....only a section of Arsenal fans live by his every word....most see through him.

Rubbish, as most Arsenal fans thought his speech was good. Just cause you did not like it don't mean others did not.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yeah and loses CC finals to Birmingham...he hardly works miracles......he's done OK but too many overhype his performance considering he's failed to deliver anything of substance in 7 years.

As I said, he's delivered financial miracles in the last 7 years. Nothing on the pitch, because that's not where the focus is any more.

[Cripps_orig]

Yep, once again, Wenger is an employee. He believes he's working miracles grabbing 4th spot and for him that probably is his trophy. His brief, after all, it to make a profit in the transfer window AND produce a team that brings in CL revenue each year. If his brief was to win the title or actually win the CL then obviously he wouldn't consider 4th spot to be a trophy because it wouldn't be acceptable to his bosses on a prolonged basis. Do I think he avoids contradicting his bosses in public? Yes, why not? Every employee does that, apart from the ones who want to be sacked.

I know you seem to think Wenger is not responsible for any of the crap we are in atm but hes the manager. He is responsible for all the shite we have seen on the pitch the last few years. For all the mistakes he has made and doesnt rectify season in and out, thats all down to him and not the board.

[Cripps_orig]

Yep, once again, Wenger is an employee. He believes he's working miracles grabbing 4th spot and for him that probably is his trophy. His brief, after all, it to make a profit in the transfer window AND produce a team that brings in CL revenue each year. If his brief was to win the title or actually win the CL then obviously he wouldn't consider 4th spot to be a trophy because it wouldn't be acceptable to his bosses on a prolonged basis. Do I think he avoids contradicting his bosses in public? Yes, why not? Every employee does that, apart from the ones who want to be sacked.

I know you seem to think Wenger is not responsible for any of the crap we are in atm but hes the manager. He is responsible for all the shite we have seen on the pitch the last few years. For all the mistakes he has made and doesnt rectify season in and out, thats all down to him and not the board.