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Thread: Match Reaction vs Fulham 10/11/12

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    and what happens if arteta did that himself? which he could have done to make up for giving away the penalty to fulham. you are using a pointless argument to slate giroud when you don't know the facts of what happened and ignoring the chance that what you said giroud should do was done by arteta himself
    I'm not slating Giroud or Arteta as such. I'm saying we don't seem to have any appreciation of the potentially big moments in a game any more, we don't know how to take advantage, sense turning points, grab those precious few crumbs when they come along. The whole club has no football soul. Everyone on that pitch should have immediately sensed it was a potentially huge moment for the new striker that we are going to need to rely on through the coming months. It wasn't that we failed, the problem is we didn't even try. I didn't see the game, conceding 3 at home means we must have been shit at the back. Scoring 3 must mean we weren't as hopeless as usual in attack. But whole seasons can turn on a few moments, this seems like one of them and it seems like another self inflicted wound. If the board isn't killing us with greed or the manager killing us with his bizarre decision making it's the players killing us with their lack of heart and brains on the pitch. It's a fuck up from top to bottom.
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    I think youre just wrong - as I said, plenty of midfielders take penalties. Im sure I saw Arteta score some for Everton.
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    Lampard scores a hatful of goals in open play, he's not far off being a striker....he's also got a proven record.

    Totally different scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Defence is sh*t everyone knows that, it has been for years and will always be under Wenger.....nothing we can do about that.

    But to pass up a chance to win the game when on a hattrick, that's another kick in the face.
    oh that's alright then. defence is shit, so our target should be to have players that can score 4/5 a game. what are you talking about you madman. if the team (including midfield) hadn't of dropped our two goal lead again, giroud wouldn't even be mentioned apart from his two goals.

    but you jump onto a guy who without, we wouldn't even have a point. that's your main concern, seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    This is true.

    Another 2 goal lead blown and the penalty would only have papered over the cracks had it been scored. We just haven't made any progress at all, I don't understand what is going on and how we always seem to end up back to square one. I don't even think we're any better than our 4th place rivals, it's just down to who's going to fuck up the least.
    Well exactly. Scaling 90 minutes of on-and-off lunacy down to one kick at the end and going on about it is just lame. Sometimes you score penalties, sometimes you don't. It's not a lottery but it's hardly a sure-shot goal? What the game does highlight is how those saying a point at Schalke was a good result, in spite of it exhibiting the same frailty that was showcased again in the next game. Conceding two-goal leads shouldn't be the norm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    no its not a different scenario. you said strikers are paid to score goals, and scoring from 12 yards is their skill set. yet now you say because lampard score some himself, he can take penalties ebcause he could be a striker. hes a midfielder, drogba a striker, yet midfielder took penalties. you have just shifted the goal posts to suit your arguement giroud is a bottler
    Er...yes it is....how many goals has Lampard scored? He's practically a striker.

    I don't think strikers should take them, however if you have a player who scores goals from open play and has a proven record of scoring penalties that's ok as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    oh that's alright then. defence is shit, so our target should be to have players that can score 4/5 a game. what are you talking about you madman. if the team (including midfield) hadn't of dropped our two goal lead again, giroud wouldn't even be mentioned apart from his two goals.

    but you jump onto a guy who without, we wouldn't even have a point. that's your main concern, seriously?
    My main concern is the clown at the helm, make no mistake.

    I also think most of the players he's bought are sh*t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
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    16 - This is Arsenal's worst start to a league season since 1982-83 when they had only 14 points after 11 games. Unprofitable.
    Very impressive considering the start we had last year.

    Just when you think we can't sink any lower, we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Er...yes it is....how many goals has Lampard scored? He's practically a striker.

    I don't think strikers should take them, however if you have a player who scores goals from open play and has a proven record of scoring penalties that's ok as well.

    so why the fuck are you aruging giroud is a bottle then?

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    People just couldn't resist finding a way to throw a jab at AW, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelgoon View Post
    I think youre just wrong - as I said, plenty of midfielders take penalties. Im sure I saw Arteta score some for Everton.
    True but generally they score goals from open play. They also usually have bottle....don't think we have any players with bottle and thus a striker should take them.

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