What is stalling Theo??

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Wenger might appear tactically inept, but he's certainly no fool. I believe he's gotten it right with Theo. For sure, Theo's a good finisher, but I don't think he'd be as effective if used as a CF/striker. I say this based on his less than technical attributes - one on one situations and all.

He gets into good scoring positions because he's able to swiftly get himself in and out of the box from that right wing. Make the mistake of stucking him into that lead striker's role, with one or two tall and/or physical defenders marking him for 90+ mins, and he'll probably look less than ordinary.

Theo has the pace similar to a TH14 but not the physical presence, trickery and raw power. He also has the stature of a Iceman, but not the def touch and sublime finish.

A good wing man he is and Wenger knows this as much as anyone else.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Wenger might appear tactically inept, but he's certainly no fool. I believe he's gotten it right with Theo. For sure, Theo's a good finisher, but I don't think he'd be as effective if used as a CF/striker. I say this based on his less than technical attributes - one on one situations and all.

He gets into good scoring positions because he's able to swiftly get himself in and out of the box from that right wing. Make the mistake of stucking him into that lead striker's role, with one or two tall and/or physical defenders marking him for 90+ mins, and he'll probably look less than ordinary.

Theo has the pace similar to a TH14 but not the physical presence, trickery and raw power. He also has the stature of a Iceman, but not the def touch and sublime finish.

A good wing man he is and Wenger knows this as much as anyone else.

Even Theo knows this. Problem is he needs to start games, rather then come off the bench.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Yea, he definitely needs to start games, but this will only happen when he accepts that his regular starts will come only playing on that right wing.

Less clutter out there allowing him to kick the ball and give chase, or swiftly sneak into the box unnoticed, affording him decent scoring opportunities which he will more than likely convert. More relevance for him right there - hope he's at least that smart to realise this.

[SayNoMore]

With the form Giroud is in, i think Theo better be happy on the right for now. He seems smart enough to realise this, but we cannot lose him like we have with everyone else. Sign him up!!

[Power n Glory]

how about pulling our fucking fingers out, realising sometimes we have to pay through the nose to help with the 'bigger picture' of where the team is at the moment, fuck off squilaci, fuck off denilson, fuck off bendtner, fuck off chamakh, fuck off diaby and then paying 100k won't even be an issue.

Terry, you had a go at me some weeks back but I'm going to dig up the issue again because I'm seeing examples of the sort posts that really tick me off and I just can't understand the logic. I'm calling it out again because it's just senseless.

I don't get how and why people are making arguments that play right into the hands of the Board and justifies their cost cutting measures while eating away at the talent we have on the field. It's obvious that Theo has had a positive impact to say the least and he's already chipped in with his fair share of goals and assists this season like he has done in the past. We simply can't afford to lose him. £75k, £100k...wing, central....it doesn't matter. He's a valuable member to this squad. The club just aren't doing enough to keep our best players and that has been made perfectly clear over the past two summers. We will continue to fall down the pecking order if we continue down this route and everyone has pretty much agreed on that point in other threads. But when you see some of the comments in here today, you have to wonder where certain posters heads are at.

It pisses me off to see such comments here and then visit threads weeks later when the shit hits the fans and the same posters are bemoaning our decline as a club and the way we keep losing players. Greedy board this, Wenger this and that but when you look at certain comments they're practically giving a seal of approval to such policies. It's not just here either. Blogs like Arseblog and Le Grove do it as well and loads of Gooners read these blogs on a daily and they only fuel the flames to turn the fans against the player. It plays right into the hands of the Board.

With the RVP situation, PHW linked RVP to Man City and practically accused him of greed and tried to manipulate the fans by talking about player loyalty at Man Utd with players like Scholes and Giggs. Months down the line we find out that RVP turned down a move to City, no contract over was even made by the club and Podolski and Giroud were already lined up as his replacement ages ago, even though Wenger said that they weren't weeks earlier. Nothing but lies from the club and that needs to be remembered. I won't even go too deep into the Song situation either but many bought into the lies in that situation too and comfortable with the prospect of losing another key player.

Now you may think this is smug and it's an 'I know better' type post, but you'd be missing the point and totally wrong. There is no shame in being conned by these vultures once, but for it to happen again and again is a little too much to take. You have to brain dead to not connect the dots after the bullshit we;ve seen over the years and routine patterns/outcome. We need to wake up to the fact that we're being conned and when we're being conned. This Theo situation is a clear example of the sting being put on us and I don't want us to be in a situation where we applaud the club for being shrewd businessmen and pat them on the back for their handling of the situation, then look back in retrospect, see it as the point at where our season fell apart and then crucify the club for their business practice.

[Niall_Quinn]

Have footballers stopped using the excuse about higher wages because the have short careers yet?

That was before they started earning a careers salary in one year, back in the days when they could play.

[dazthegooner]

Terry, you had a go at me some weeks back but I'm going to dig up the issue again because I'm seeing examples of the sort posts that really tick me off and I just can't understand the logic. I'm calling it out again because it's just senseless.

I don't get how and why people are making arguments that play right into the hands of the Board and justifies their cost cutting measures while eating away at the talent we have on the field. It's obvious that Theo has had a positive impact to say the least and he's already chipped in with his fair share of goals and assists this season like he has done in the past. We simply can't afford to lose him. £75k, £100k...wing, central....it doesn't matter. He's a valuable member to this squad. The club just aren't doing enough to keep our best players and that has been made perfectly clear over the past two summers. We will continue to fall down the pecking order if we continue down this route and everyone has pretty much agreed on that point in other threads. But when you see some of the comments in here today, you have to wonder where certain posters heads are at.

It pisses me off to see such comments here and then visit threads weeks later when the shit hits the fans and the same posters are bemoaning our decline as a club and the way we keep losing players. Greedy board this, Wenger this and that but when you look at certain comments they're practically giving a seal of approval to such policies. It's not just here either. Blogs like Arseblog and Le Grove do it as well and loads of Gooners read these blogs on a daily and they only fuel the flames to turn the fans against the player. It plays right into the hands of the Board.

With the RVP situation, PHW linked RVP to Man City and practically accused him of greed and tried to manipulate the fans by talking about player loyalty at Man Utd with players like Scholes and Giggs. Months down the line we find out that RVP turned down a move to City, no contract over was even made by the club and Podolski and Giroud were already lined up as his replacement ages ago, even though Wenger said that they weren't weeks earlier. Nothing but lies from the club and that needs to be remembered. I won't even go too deep into the Song situation either but many bought into the lies in that situation too and comfortable with the prospect of losing another key player.

Now you may think this is smug and it's an 'I know better' type post, but you'd be missing the point and totally wrong. There is no shame in being conned by these vultures once, but for it to happen again and again is a little too much to take. You have to brain dead to not connect the dots after the bullshit we;ve seen over the years and routine patterns/outcome. We need to wake up to the fact that we're being conned and when we're being conned. This Theo situation is a clear example of the sting being put on us and I don't want us to be in a situation where we applaud the club for being shrewd businessmen and pat them on the back for their handling of the situation, then look back in retrospect, see it as the point at where our season fell apart and then crucify the club for their business practice.

[Niall_Quinn]

Terry, you had a go at me some weeks back but I'm going to dig up the issue again because I'm seeing examples of the sort posts that really tick me off and I just can't understand the logic. I'm calling it out again because it's just senseless.

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Now you may think this is smug and it's an 'I know better' type post, but you'd be missing the point and totally wrong. There is no shame in being conned by these vultures once, but for it to happen again and again is a little too much to take. You have to brain dead to not connect the dots after the bullshit we;ve seen over the years and routine patterns/outcome. We need to wake up to the fact that we're being conned and when we're being conned. This Theo situation is a clear example of the sting being put on us and I don't want us to be in a situation where we applaud the club for being shrewd businessmen and pat them on the back for their handling of the situation, then look back in retrospect, see it as the point at where our season fell apart and then crucify the club for their business practice.

Walcott's playing his part in this ongoing sting too. They all are. The game has moved way, way beyond the fans now and is all about agents and lawyers and accountants and scalpers. We had a laugh beating the spuds again but let's not even pretend it's the same game or any of those players mean a fraction to the fans that the legends do. These ****s aren't pulling any wool anywhere, they don't even pretend to give a shit. Whether it's the mega ****s like PHW or the trainee ****s like Walcott, they are the same. Both these cocksuckers have everything they could have ever dreamed of, but they want more. Fuck them. Who is fooled? Maybe the fans who say poor Theo, poor RvC, poor anyone who takes our money and fucks off as soon as the opportunity presents itself.

Shame badge kissers aren't booed instead of cheered. Leave the badge alone ****s. Instead get your pen out, take the king's ransom and at least pretend to thank your lucky stars for your silver spoon existence. Just because everything is totally fucking insane doesn't mean we have to accept it as normal and then argue between the degrees of fake normality.

[gooners]

Well, walcott owes anyone nothing. It is his career and life afterall -- it has always been the case. You can romanticize 'those days gone' as much as you like.

he is the commodity --- if you want it, you pay for it!

walcott didn't complain when PHW and co sold out for a handsome sum; and he wont when wenger and gazidis collect their fat bonuses


Edit: he could also choose to play for free; he is already set for life, isn't he?

[Power n Glory]

Walcott's playing his part in this ongoing sting too. They all are. The game has moved way, way beyond the fans now and is all about agents and lawyers and accountants and scalpers. We had a laugh beating the spuds again but let's not even pretend it's the same game or any of those players mean a fraction to the fans that the legends do. These ****s aren't pulling any wool anywhere, they don't even pretend to give a shit. Whether it's the mega ****s like PHW or the trainee ****s like Walcott, they are the same. Both these cocksuckers have everything they could have ever dreamed of, but they want more. Fuck them. Who is fooled? Maybe the fans who say poor Theo, poor RvC, poor anyone who takes our money and fucks off as soon as the opportunity presents itself.

Shame badge kissers aren't booed instead of cheered. Leave the badge alone ****s. Instead get your pen out, take the king's ransom and at least pretend to thank your lucky stars for your silver spoon existence. Just because everything is totally fucking insane doesn't mean we have to accept it as normal and then argue between the degrees of fake normality.

This is childish talk. Did you give a shit about Walcott's well being before he joined Arsenal? Will you give a shit about him after heleaves? No! It works both ways.

And you can't pull the loyalty card here either because he is within his rights to see out his contract. He agreed to stay for that duration and he's not looking to break that agreement. He'll honour his contract if the club don't want to offer an extension and then move on.