Honest Frank the Muppet and other Chavs sh!t

[Özim]

Don't you think there is just a teeny weeny bit of a difference between a dodgy offside call and accusing an innocent individual of committing a criminal act in the form a racist slur?

There is, but players get accused of it as well some get found guilty some are found innocent, surely refs aren't immune to being investigated just because they're refs? Besides it's pretty easy to prove either way considering everything they say can be heard.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

We should organise every club to get Clattenburg t shirts to show solidarity.

I hear they work quite well...

[Özim]

The fact noone respects referees, mainly due to incompetence and never having to answer for their errors isn't going to help them, Colina was a great ref and players generally acknowledged that, the FA need to change things to turnaround people's opinions about them.

Look at some of the comments on the referees posted on here when they make an error for example (even during a match to be honest), noone respects them.

[Özim]

Wow just wow.

Did you learn that one from Ollie btw?

[Ollie the Optimist]

The fact noone respects referees, mainly due to incompetence and never having to answer for their errors isn't going to help them, Colina was a great ref and players generally acknowledged that, the FA need to change things to turnaround people's opinions about them.

Look at some of the comments on the referees posted on here when they make an error for example (even during a match to be honest), noone respects them.

so no one respects referees, thats a fair point, however its no justifcation to just accuse them of racism because you dont respect them and they need a taste of their own medicine

[Kano]

i think ramires was genuine with mishearing what was said but how it was handled after that has made this whole thing a complete shambles.

[Özim]

so no one respects referees, thats a fair point, however its no justifcation to just accuse them of racism because you dont respect them and they need a taste of their own medicine

I think this probably stems from the fact the players feel powerless when it comes to referees, they can basically do what they want with no repercussions, not saying it's right but I reckon that's the reason incidents like this happen.

Or yeah Ramirez just misheard what was said, that's feasible.

[Kano]

I think this probably stems from the fact the players feel powerless when it comes to referees, they can basically do what they want with no repercussions, not saying it's right but I reckon that's the reason incidents like this happen.

Or yeah Ramirez just misheard what was said.

someone has to keep this spoilt brats in check. they can't have everything their own way.

[Özim]

someone has to keep this spoilt brats in check. they can't have everything their own way.

Doing what they want with no repercussions....bit too close to home that one!

[Ollie the Optimist]

I think this probably stems from the fact the players feel powerless when it comes to referees, they can basically do what they want with no repercussions, not saying it's right but I reckon that's the reason incidents like this happen.

Or yeah Ramirez just misheard what was said, that's feasible.

what a stupid argument. you cant just accuse people of crimes because you dont respect them, you know, you kind of need evidence for it. you just cant accuse willy nilly because you think they need to be brought down a peg or two.


the problem is not ramies mishearing it, which is possible, its the manner in which they complained to hte press first, then to the Fa.