Match Reaction v Aston Villa

[Cripps_orig]

Phw has also been in charge of the club for decades -- he was here before wenger came in; in fact he was chair of the board that installed wenger.So anybody that disrespects PHW doesn't deserve to be taken seriously; does that work?

Pretty much. Hypocritical GW

[Power n Glory]

Phw has also been in charge of the club for decades -- he was here before wenger came in; in fact he was chair of the board that installed wenger.

So anybody that disrespects PHW (on an internet forum or at matches) doesn't deserve to be taken seriously; does that work?

Exactly my point. Works on so many levels.

[Kano]

Phw has also been in charge of the club for decades -- he was here before wenger came in; in fact he was chair of the board that installed wenger.

So anybody that disrespects PHW (on an internet forum or at matches) doesn't deserve to be taken seriously; does that work?

there is usually a dividing line between disrespect and abuse in most sensible peoples minds.

[Power n Glory]

he wont leave. wenger bangs on about being loyal to every contract he's had. why would he leave. he's earning top money and got complete control at a club, something very rare these days. ill give him some serious props if he walked away because its whats best for the club but he wont. he's gonna milk and exhaust this reign just like he's exhausted everything else he's done for the past 7 years. even when he leaves do you really trust those mobs on the board to appoint the right man. fat chance. they'll want to keep their roi going and wont jeopardise that with a pep. pep spent something like 150m euros during his reign at barca so you can forget about him. he has the opportunity to turn chelsea into another barcelona with the backing of a blank chequed madman. he'll go there, earn a fortune and win a serious amount of trophies. the only thing we have going for us is class and history but as you say, by the time wenger leaves, the former might be extinct.

According to reports, Pep wants Man Utd and not Chelsea. There is no way he'd want that trigger happy Russian as his boss. If he wants to build a lasting legacy and tale what he's learned from Barca to another club, I wouldn't rule us out totally. We're a catch for any manager.

[gooners]

there is usually a dividing line between disrespect and abuse in most sensible peoples minds.

Similar to calling other clubs' fans/managers scum/****s/fat/twitchy etc. --- or that is merely in jest?

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

The board sells players over wenger's head? And wenger is just an employee?

good one!

Adding to the brilliant contribution PnG made on that myth already- in the real world, even the law recognises that a Manager can"t manage if he doesn't have control of a club's transfer policy. I've quoted the Keegan v Newcastle case a few times already to the cult of Arsene- but here I go again:

Keegan's dispute with the club was resolved in October 2009. The tribunal ruled in favour of Keegan, agreeing that Newcastle had constructively dismissed him by insisting on the signing of midfielder Ignacio González on loan completely against his wishes. The ruling[78] was based around seven issues. The panel declared that Keegan had been misled to believe he had the final decision on player transfers, and was never explicitly told in writing, his contract, or word of mouth that he didn't or that his role would see him essentially report to others. Given the generally understood role of a Premiership manager, the panel agreed he could reasonably expect that this was not a factor. The club's signing of González meant that they had violated his employment contract, which amounted to constructive dismissal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Keegan

Summary: Keegan quit when he couldn't bear that Mike Ashley had forced a loan signing on him and sued Newcastle for " sacking him" (which they actually never directly did) because they breached his contract by the singular act of imposing a player on him. He won.

[Kano]

Similar to calling other clubs' fans/managers scum/****s/fat/twitchy etc. --- or that is merely in jest?

same thing. the people that say it and mean it are absolute retards.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Phw has also been in charge of the club for decades -- he was here before wenger came in; in fact he was chair of the board that installed wenger.

So anybody that disrespects PHW (on an internet forum or at matches) doesn't deserve to be taken seriously; does that work?

welcome to goonersweb.

let me point you in the direction of the BWK's who are the inconsistent hypocritical movement. be careful what you write though as they have a strong foothold on this board. unless of course you dont give a fuck, in which i welcome you to our movement. feel free to express yourself with as many expletives as you want.

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

BTW the Klopp lovefest has me grinning seeing as I was probably his first public fan on this forum and tried selling him to the "there's no one like Wenger brigade" pointing out how he had succeeded practically everywhere AW had failed; but unfortunately they started last season badly, ended up in the same CL group as us and came last- so the "Arsene is the best manager in the World" group felt vindicated, as we were in a better position at that time. What they forgot to point out was that Dortmund had just gotten into the CL for the first time in ages, they outplayed us over the 2 legs last year and that football seasonal ambitions do not end in January for most top clubs. This Dortmund proved by recovering from the CL exit and early league setbacks to later win the title that same year with a Bundesliga record amount of points (despite the fact that Bayern had started like a house on fire and spent millions as usual) and add more salt to treble chasing Bayern"s woes by besting them in the final of the cup-to claim their first double.

Anyway I still believe 80% of top managers could add the life that has been drained out of us due to Wengers repugnant stagnancy- and though I'd now prefer an impact manager like Mourinho/Hiddink to a developmental manager like Klopp ATM- we just need to make a fking change ASAP- and thats what is truly important!!n

[Dennis Bendtner]

Come at me bro! Just some context for the quotes. It is quite frosty.