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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Sad sequence of postings from the usual suspects.

    Wah, wah, wah. Why won't Wenger leave? GTFO Wenger. Wenger this, Wenger that, Wenger controls the club, all the usual bullshit but now with the added twist of seeing the blow it up gang lining up behind the press to persecute the manager - the British media FFS! And going as far as to apologise for PHW, a guy who inherited his position and sold it the moment key individuals were ejected. "We don't want his sort here", right up until the cash was flashed and Pete realised he'd get a chunk. Yeah, there's a huge similarity between Wenger and PHW, LOL. An Arsenal man through an through is our Pete.

    The whole time the most obvious fact is overlooked. If the board wanted Wenger out then Wenger would be out. So the fans can scream all they want about Wenger but until they start directing that fire at the individuals who can actually get them what they want then they are wasting their time and boring the rest of us to death in the process. It all seems far too contrived. Ignore the elephant in the room and press every ounce of blame onto one guy. That's realistic, isn't it? And get Klopp in while you are at it because that'll change the board's agenda overnight, won't it? Stands to reason, provided you don't think anything through realistically. Of course Klopp could always join and then quit in protest, that would be useful and necessary in fact or else he'd be in the same position of having to go along with the agenda. Whether he's take the opportunity to criticise his bosses at every turn, who knows? My money is on no, he wouldn't.

    And a special mention again to the "told you so" self-congratulation crew. Well done boys. There's no way to test if your half solutions would be successful because guess what, the board is still here and the board still wants Wenger to be here. It must be murder having to dodge around that all the time to get at Wenger.

    It's amazing how some fans just don't get that Arsenal is now an investment vehicle. Fine, go ahead and change the manager, the players, the stadium, the pitch, the menu, whatever you want. I accept the fact the current manager is fucking up in a lot of respects. But I also accept the very obvious fact he's doing pretty well in other areas that would probably crush other managers, such as having to sell his key players every year. Now to the people suggesting he wants to do that so he can make money for his bosses - grow the fuck up really. Stop making shit up and adding two and two to get nine hundred. Player sales is the area where Wenger has diverged the most from the board, even to the point of making himself look ridiculous. He even said we couldn't be a big club if we sold our top players. Do you think that went down well in the boardroom? Now he wants for money for Walcott to stay, I can't wait to see how this is spun into an attempt to force Walcott out. I want him to stay, I think he will stay, give him more money - Wenger forces Walcott out! LOL guys, just LOL.

    Quick note to those who assume otherwise, if I saw Kroenke I CERTAINLY would call him a **** right to his face. I've never had any problems telling the truth. I wouldn't do it in public where he'd get the benefit of trying to assume the moral high ground. But in private, no problems. Anyone who came into our club knowing nothing about it beyond the investment potential who then set out to pillage it would get the same response from me. I'm just surprised every fan doesn't see it the same way.

    As for Wenger, I wouldn't have any problems telling him about himself either and commenting in detail about how his stubborness is costing us on the pitch - IN MY OPINION - because we're outside after all looking in, so maybe, just maybe we wouldn't be as effective as Wenger in the management role. It has to be entertained as a possibility at least. But I'd keep at the back of my mind the deep admiration I felt for the guy when he was guiding the best footballing team I've ever seen to so much (earned not bought) glory. And that would help me achieve a balance to any frustration I am feeling at the current state of affairs.

    PHW though. Seriously? Fuck him. He has his money, he's shovelled the club into the hands of theives and gangsters, he's not even connected to Arsenal any more after his sell out. Fuck him. He's just a lingering stink. Respect? For what?
    Spot on like you aways are NQ. People are stupid to think Wenger will go and we will get Klopp/Pep/Jose etc. It will be another yes man to this board, heck they probs let AW choose him anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    He's the one that kicked off at me, so he deserves patronising tbh, don't dish it out unless you can take it.

    I'd stay out of this it's got nothing to do with you to be honest, you would say that as you're the biggest fans of one of the people who goes out of his way to WUM about me on here.
    Not anybody's biggest fan but you act like a tard and Some calls you up on it thats down to them. Yeah i like GP thats because i think he is a cool and level headed poster on here. Not because he wums about you.

    He's the one that kicked off at me, so he deserves patronising tbh, don't dish it out unless you can take it.
    Yet you call him the kid. why not put him on ignore he he pisses you off so much. Personally, i think your a decent FM don't always agree with you. I don't hate you or have anything against you. Just think sometimes you go a bit Wenger obbsessed thats all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    We won't get top 4. T
    Oh we will, only cause the rest of the teams challenging are worse then us and the quality of the league is poor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Some did, some didn't. To me it says a lot that he struggles to keep hold of his best players, I can't think of another top manager who is frequently stabbed in the back as much as he is.
    Not sure that makes sense if he is selling them, then how could they be stabbing him in the back. Not that he did sell them, just going by one Theory on here.

    If he did not choose to sell them, like RVP who chose to leave then maybe it was because they wanted a club who was more ambitious. If you look at the players who have left.

    They have all said the same thing "I want to go to a club who is ambitious" Not to a manager who is ambitious. So they hate the way the club is run from the board to Wenger they don't just blame him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Not anybody's biggest fan but you act like a tard and Some calls you up on it thats down to them. Yeah i like GP thats because i think he is a cool and level headed poster on here. Not because he wums about you.
    Cool, level headed? Seriously? Have you seen what he posts....he was picked up by someone on the match thread yesterday asking him if he was watching the same match (he did the same in the Man U match thread) and basically goes around wumming about those he doesn't agree with.

    As for Ollie, if he comes out and slates me he'll get it back, that goes for anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    None of those players would have left if not given the ok by Wenger. He has a lot of influence over the boarf for whatever reason. Cesc himself has said it was Wenger who went to the board to get them to drop the asking price to what Barca wanted so Cesc could fuck off there. RVC if reports are to be believed was having 2nd thoughts about leaving after seeing the signings of Podolski and Cazorla. It was Wenger who decided to sell him. Ferguson called Wenger not a board member to thrash out a deal and now we are lumped with some french nobody upfront who has been avearage his whole career and lo and behold has been average for us. What a shock. As a great man once said "if you keep buying average players, you become an average team" Last few years we had that one special player who could creep us in to the top 4 on the back of some awesome displays. Now we don't have anyone. Top 4 is gone. We are facing mid table mediocrity
    Yes we do, we have the same man who got us into the top 3 last season and has for the last 16 years. Arsene Wenger. he knows how to meet his targets and he will again and we will finish in the top 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Spot on like you aways are NQ. People are stupid to think Wenger will go and we will get Klopp/Pep/Jose etc. It will be another yes man to this board, heck they probs let AW choose him anyways.
    We have already seen a change in ownership, Cheif Exec and now first team coach. Things have remained the same. We were on the decline before Stan, before Gazidis and even before Dein left. We've seen numerous changes internally. Wenger had a period where he was acting Cheif Exec until Ivan's arrival. How many more changes do we need at the top end and would it have made a difference to some of Wenger's tactical decisions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    They have all said the same thing "I want to go to a club who is ambitious" Not to a manager who is ambitious. So they hate the way the club is run from the board to Wenger they don't just blame him.
    A manager is part and parcel of a club's ambitions, his vision is what convinces players to go or stay....Wenger is happy the way things are, he doesn't want to spend money on quality and 4th place is good enough for him, the players eventually see this. It's the manager that convinces players to stay not the board at the end of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    We have already seen a change in ownership, Cheif Exec and now first team coach. Things have remained the same. We were on the decline before Stan, before Gazidis and even before Dein left. We've seen numerous changes internally. Wenger had a period where he was acting Cheif Exec until Ivan's arrival. How many more changes do we need at the top end and would it have made a difference to some of Wenger's tactical decisions?
    Never said anything about the board being at fault for Wenger not being good tactially. My point is if people thing once Wenger leaves we will automaitcally be title contenders again they need to think again.

    What we need is a Owner who has ambition but not one who needs to splash out loads of cash. We need a man that will put the team 1st. Not 1 guy who is worried about how many dolla's he can make for us. Or a Chairman who worry's about how many nice boats he can buy.

    Wenger should go, but once he does things won't change that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    A manager is part and parcel of a club's ambitions, his vision is what convinces players to go or stay....Wenger is happy the way things are, he doesn't want to spend money on quality and 4th place is good enough for him, the players eventually see this. It's the manager that convinces players to stay not the board at the end of the day.
    Yes thats why Ashley cole said it was Dein's fault he left not Wenger's. Same thing RVP and Nasri even Ade Said too.

    End of the day Half those players went for money. Cesc wanted to play for his home club, not even Wenger could convince him to stay. Mind you when Barca come calling you never say no.

    It's the manager that convinces players to stay not the board at the end of the day.
    Thats rubbish since RVP met Ivan and Wenger and both them had to convince him to stay. End of the day the board play a big part too. If they say we won't allow you to play him so and so a week not much the manager can do if he keept on fighting and they won't back down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Not sure that makes sense if he is selling them, then how could they be stabbing him in the back. Not that he did sell them, just going by one Theory on here.

    If he did not choose to sell them, like RVP who chose to leave then maybe it was because they wanted a club who was more ambitious. If you look at the players who have left.

    They have all said the same thing "I want to go to a club who is ambitious" Not to a manager who is ambitious. So they hate the way the club is run from the board to Wenger they don't just blame him.
    Of course, Wenger and the board are one but he is the one with a day to day influence on these guys.

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