wenger and the media

[Niall_Quinn]

I can't see how the media are responsible for the problems within the club. The fans are annoyed because of the stagnation and decline that we've witnessed over the last 6 years, and especially the lack of effort to correct for the under-investment in the squad. You can't blame the media for that. Even if we agree that the media have spuriously linked us to players in the past even though we weren't interested, that's beside the point. If anything it makes things worse, at least if we were attempting to properly supplement the squad with quality players, you could argue we knew there was a problem and were trying to fix it. If it's true that we were never in for Mata, Alonso, Cahill, that shows an even greater disregard for improving the squad.

Who is trying to say the media is responsible for the problems at the club? I mean really?

The article is from a fan who's standing up and saying sure, if we have problems with Wenger we'll voice them. But we don't need to hide behind the British scum media to do it and we certainly don't need to let those ****s speak in our name. It sums up my feelings very well and the more the media get on Wenger's case the more I'll support him because I have never had a problem lining up on the right side in a fight between us and them and neither do I dance with whores.

[Niall_Quinn]

Oh I think he knows exactly what he's doing. It's his crusade.

The difference is whether people believe in him anymore, and that is where I feel the majority don't...or at the very least, have big doubts.

It's not a question of belief any more. We don't believe him, do we? When all is said and done. This is a question of respect, gratitude and dignity. We can say thanks for the memory Arsene but now it's time to part company, or we can rant and rave about the place hurling obscenities at the man while we rub ourselves against AIDS ridden Oliver Holt in a show of temporary and nauseating solidarity. Ollie can sell his rag and get his money and we can bring in some hero figure to win us a pot. I guess we just put up with the self inflicted dose of AIDS that will be the cost of that pot. But at least we got the pot, right? It's the pot that counts, fuck human decency.

[Özim]

It's not a question of belief any more. We don't believe him, do we? When all is said and done. This is a question of respect, gratitude and dignity. We can say thanks for the memory Arsene but now it's time to part company, or we can rant and rave about the place hurling obscenities at the man while we rub ourselves against AIDS ridden Oliver Holt in a show of temporary and nauseating solidarity. Ollie can sell his rag and get his money and we can bring in some hero figure to win us a pot. I guess we just put up with the self inflicted dose of AIDS that will be the cost of that pot. But at least we got the pot, right? It's the pot that counts, fuck human decency.

I'd like to ask what respect Wenger shows the fans? In recent years he's blamed them for all and sundry and refused to answer/address their concerns. Respect is earned and IMO he has no respect for the fans so I'm not sure why he deserves any.

The players and the board are his concerns that's clear, the fans don't even come into it.

[Ollie the Optimist]

I'd like to ask what respect Wenger shows the fans? In recent years he's blamed them for all and sundry and refused to answer/address their concerns. Respect is earned and IMO he has no respect for the fans so I'm not sure why he deserves any.

The players and the board are his concerns that's clear, the fans don't even come into it.

have you got any evidence for that? i can think of hill wood saying we fans are lucky to get fourth and all that bollocks, but i genuinely cant think of wenger ever blaming us

[LDG]

It's not a question of belief any more. We don't believe him, do we? When all is said and done. This is a question of respect, gratitude and dignity. We can say thanks for the memory Arsene but now it's time to part company, or we can rant and rave about the place hurling obscenities at the man while we rub ourselves against AIDS ridden Oliver Holt in a show of temporary and nauseating solidarity. Ollie can sell his rag and get his money and we can bring in some hero figure to win us a pot. I guess we just put up with the self inflicted dose of AIDS that will be the cost of that pot. But at least we got the pot, right? It's the pot that counts, fuck human decency.

Not like you to over-react

[Özim]

have you got any evidence for that? i can think of hill wood saying we fans are lucky to get fourth and all that bollocks, but i genuinely cant think of wenger ever blaming us

Adebayor? Remember that, he blamed the fans for this.

Perhaps blame isn't entirely right but patronising certainly is including saying "'They're lucky to have a young team with a magnificent talent who can do extremely well." and now telling us we effectively don't deserve any answers.

He sweeps all of people's concerns under the carpet with the old "I know better than you" card, if that's the case, maybe he should start delivering on the pitch then.

[Niall_Quinn]

Not like you to over-react

Not addressed at you, I was just using the idea you'd chucked in. It was addressed at the gentlemen who are currently standing up with all sorts of undesirables to take a dump on our manger. To my mind these gentlemen are utter ****s.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

have you got any evidence for that? i can think of hill wood saying we fans are lucky to get fourth and all that bollocks, but i genuinely cant think of wenger ever blaming us

Thing with PHW as much as people hate him, he does talk sense. His problem is he is old school The old" Like it or Lump it". Its the way he says things like a stbborn old man.

[Joker]

Thing with PHW as much as people hate him, he does talk sense. His problem is he is old school The old" Like it or Lump it". Its the way he says things like a stbborn old man.

What has he talked sense about?

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

It's not a question of belief any more. We don't believe him, do we? When all is said and done. This is a question of respect, gratitude and dignity. We can say thanks for the memory Arsene but now it's time to part company, or we can rant and rave about the place hurling obscenities at the man while we rub ourselves against AIDS ridden Oliver Holt in a show of temporary and nauseating solidarity. Ollie can sell his rag and get his money and we can bring in some hero figure to win us a pot. I guess we just put up with the self inflicted dose of AIDS that will be the cost of that pot. But at least we got the pot, right? It's the pot that counts, fuck human decency.

id show him more respect if he wasn't robbing me of my money and insulting my intelligence at the same time.

you earn respect but its no god given formality that you keep it eternally.

it's a 2 way thing.

i respected tony blair before he decided to wage an unnecessary war on iraq. do i respect him now? no.

actions speak louder than words.