Wenger's legacy - has it held us back

[IBK]

There is a lot of talk, even now, form well-meaning Gooners as to how we are disrespecting the manager by failing to acknowledge how much he has done for AFC.

But if you really think about it, the fact that he has gone on so long with a clearly flawed football model is the biggest acknowledgment of his legacy that there is. Its not the 7 years without a trophy that's the issue. Its the 7 years of seeing the same problems with our game, 7 years of seeing football played without drive or urgency, 7 years where we have been patient, and even hoped to see progression - but have been disappointed again and again.

Wenger achieved great things, but in terms of our football success, he should have left 3 years ago, with the stadium project played out and the club still competitive (in context).

I can understand why, but Wenger has traded off his reputation and legacy for too long now. He and the footballing world should acknowledge that with our patience, Gooners have shown him complete respect. If we are not showing it so much now, its because we feel disillusioned and sad that our confidence has been displaced.

Thoughts?

[gooners]

He is makiing the board money --- until he isn't, he is staying put. The board's loyalty is not towards the fans but towards the value of their shares vis a vis Wenger

[Niall_Quinn]

He is makiing the board money --- until he isn't, he is staying put. The board's loyalty is not towards the fans but towards the value of their shares vis a vis Wenger

That's it. Wenger would of course argue he's been very successful because 4th place is success at this club. PHW's parting comment at the last audience with the Arsenal royalty spelled it out very clearly.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

And the bar will even be lowered with Platini's most shrewd and astute plans for the game.

Easier to come 7th than 4th. Board still make a bucket load thus being kept happy.

Wengbot

Will die still being Arsenal manager

[Syn]

I feel a bit stupid for thinking Wenger had some altruistic qualities. In reality, he has shown himself not to be an Arsenal man...and why would he be? He's French with no childhood memories of being taken to games or following Arsenal. This is just a job for him - and fair play, he earns a lot of money. I don't feel he deserves to be treated with the respect. Effing and jeffing won't help but I just think nothing of him now. He's another suit.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

I feel a bit stupid for thinking Wenger had some altruistic qualities. In reality, he has shown himself not to be an Arsenal man...and why would he be? He's French with no childhood memories of being taken to games or following Arsenal. This is just a job for him - and fair play, he earns a lot of money. I don't feel he deserves to be treated with the respect. Effing and jeffing won't help but I just think nothing of him now. He's another suit.

This is it. Mr Arsenal isn't Mr Arsenal at all. He doesn't love the club, if he did he'd have gone a couple of seasons ago.

[gooners]

This is it. Mr Arsenal isn't Mr Arsenal at all. He doesn't love the club, if he did he'd have gone a couple of seasons ago.

love is complicated...

[Özim]

Have no respect for the guy, why should I he has no respect for the fans and treats them like idiots.

I feel he's been allowed to live on past glories for far too long and hasn't had to continue earning respect due to the success in his early days. I can't respect a man who blindly follows a path to failure and never tries to change direction.

[Özim]

This is it. Mr Arsenal isn't Mr Arsenal at all. He doesn't love the club, if he did he'd have gone a couple of seasons ago.

If he loved the club he'd want it to be the best and have success to be honest, the fact he things 4th place is great and good enough is insulting.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I acknowledge the good he has done but it is more important to look to the future and acknowledge that his era was in the past.