Match reaction v Swansea

[Özil's Panoramic View]

I guess we're also unlucky to be 10th too, right?

How the heck else do you expect folks to react to this kind of shit?

[Niall_Quinn]

I guess we're also unlucky to be 10th too, right?

How the heck else do you expect folks to react to this kind of shit?

I'm talking about one match, not the season so far. I expect some people to watch the game and react accordingly. I expect others to have a hysterical breakdown. Depends on the person. But no way was that performance today as poor as the two that have gone before. Much better passing today, and by that I mean we weren't awful. Better crossing. A few shots going in. Still too slow, still shit in the final third but an improvement from what is a very average side these days. That's why I say we were unlucky. It was a 50/50 game with two typically tragic defensive moments at the end to throw a point away. That's what actually happened. What else do you want me to say?

[DJ Philosophe]

So much standing around by this team in the attacking 1/3, and when they do run the movement off the ball was predictable and easy to defend. Desperately need some class strikers that opponents fear and more midfield players willing to run for 90 minutes. Cazorla needs to play CAM to free him up to create with less defensive responsibilities and our dreaded "CDM" position goes unfilled almost every game now. No one closing down or covering the back four, which draws the CBs out of position every time. So simple to see, but still nothing is done to change this....

Now the part that really scares me is that there seems to be certain entitlement built into the mentality of these players, as if they feel they are "better" than Swansea so no need to press or show any heart on the pitch. We've seen what these players are capable of and the inconsistency is seriously appalling. I've played and coached on inconsistent teams and its SO hard to get motivated for matches and you can clearly see it in this squad. They play scared to make mistakes and also scared to take chances to unlock the defense. I don't know if is an after effect of RVPs dominance last season for AFC but it seems all are looking for others to do the work, which is a recipe for disaster. A new manager might fix the issue, but the MAIN under lying problem still remains and needs to be dealt with...we've sold our best players for many years in row and replaced with players of less quality in the hopes they will blossom at Arsenal. I'm not sure where we go from here and neither does Wenger or his crew...but its very disheartening and I hope AW or SB can do something to re-motivate these players before they to lose hope.

/end rant

COME ON ARSENAL. SORT IT OUT!

[Özil's Panoramic View]

I'm talking about one match, not the season so far. I expect some people to watch the game and react accordingly. I expect others to have a hysterical breakdown. Depends on the person. But no way was that performance today as poor as the two that have gone before. Much better passing today, and by that I mean we weren't awful. Better crossing. A few shots going in. Still too slow, still shit in the final third but an improvement from what is a very average side these days. That's why I say we were unlucky. It was a 50/50 game with two typically tragic defensive moments at the end to throw a point away. That's what actually happened. What else do you want me to say?

Well, it seems a well played loss doesn't really offer much solace to fans who are fed up with being fed shit week in week out.

A few improved passes and crosses are easily be overshadowed by losing to Swansea, especially at home. Fuck any form of pretence of objectivity at this point. We don't need to hear that it was 50/50 or we played better against Swansea than we did against villa or Everton.

[Niall_Quinn]

Now the part that really scares me is that there seems to be certain entitlement built into the mentality of these players

Completely agree and it has been going on for years. Back in the day it was a good thing because the players were good enough to warrant their high opinion of themselves. But once the quality had been sold out the attitude didn't drop to a realistic level. Ramsey is one of the worst culprits, the way he casually strokes his misplaced passes to the opposition.

[Niall_Quinn]

Well, it seems a well played loss doesn't really offer much solace to fans who are fed up with being fed shit week in week out.

A few improved passes and crosses are easily be overshadowed by losing to Swansea, especially at home. Fuck any form of pretence of objectivity at this point. We don't need to hear that it was 50/50 or we played better against Swansea than we did against villa or Everton.

You may not want to hear certain things but on a public forum you run the risk of encountering differing opinions. I didn't say the fans should seek solace in a loss. I said we played better today than we have done in recent weeks, although still nowhere near the level I expect from a supposedly top flight team. But I've seen comments about how good Swansea were - not in my opinion, I thought they were average. We gifted them a couple of late goals otherwise it would have been a poor goalless draw which would have been the fair result based on play. When I say unlucky I don't mean the defensive lapses weren't scandalous - particularly the second where the team had given up. I mostly mean we are unlucky as fans that Gervinho plays for us. What a shit player. I'm not tipping us for the title. All I'm saying is the performance was nowhere near as bad as some are painting it, although the result was bad of course.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Get most of what you're saying. I agree that some people on here are tipping the scale somewhat by saying Swansea is actually anything barring being pubbers. But they did pull off a win no matter how average they were against us. Kind of speaks volumes about the character of our team when a pub team can be average against us and still beat us by 2 goals at our home.

Shows we have no drive, no determination, no guile, no killer instinct, no winning mentality, no pride or passion for the shirt; just a rudderless, toothless pack of mongrels selected by a stubborn old mule who should have been relieved of his duties some 3 years ago. With all the money at his disposal, he buys and handsomely pays the likes of Gervinho, Ramsey, Santos, Koscielny, Arteta, Chamakh, Bendtner, Vela, Denilson, Vermaelen, Squilacci, etc, all unworthy of being Arsenal players.

Oh, and while you're rightfully at Gervinho's throat, calling him out for the shit he is, it would also be fair to apportion some of the slating to whoever it was that picked him ahead of Giroud and persisted with him for however long today.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

So much standing around by this team in the attacking 1/3, and when they do run the movement off the ball was predictable and easy to defend. Desperately need some class strikers that opponents fear and more midfield players willing to run for 90 minutes. Cazorla needs to play CAM to free him up to create with less defensive responsibilities and our dreaded "CDM" position goes unfilled almost every game now. No one closing down or covering the back four, which draws the CBs out of position every time. So simple to see, but still nothing is done to change this....

Now the part that really scares me is that there seems to be certain entitlement built into the mentality of these players, as if they feel they are "better" than Swansea so no need to press or show any heart on the pitch. We've seen what these players are capable of and the inconsistency is seriously appalling. I've played and coached on inconsistent teams and its SO hard to get motivated for matches and you can clearly see it in this squad. They play scared to make mistakes and also scared to take chances to unlock the defense. I don't know if is an after effect of RVPs dominance last season for AFC but it seems all are looking for others to do the work, which is a recipe for disaster. A new manager might fix the issue, but the MAIN under lying problem still remains and needs to be dealt with...we've sold our best players for many years in row and replaced with players of less quality in the hopes they will blossom at Arsenal. I'm not sure where we go from here and neither does Wenger or his crew...but its very disheartening and I hope AW or SB can do something to re-motivate these players before they to lose hope.

/end rant

COME ON ARSENAL. SORT IT OUT!

Spot on, so much arrogance in this sqaud we seen it not from this season but for the last few. The players are just a disgrace its ok blaming the manager but they need to fucking man up and stop being lazy ****. Lets be honest were at a disadvantage before we even get on the pitch anyways the sqaud is no good and we are seeing the results of lack of quality.

[Lord Nelson]

The quality of player in our squad has progressively declined down the years (o hai captain obvious. Still rather that than Captain Vermaelen). But it means when we're in bad form and come across a team like Swansea in good form that there is a good chance we'll get our asses kicked. MOTD highlights showed so many occasions of them virtually playing FIFA Street around some lost children. The quality of player is not there to ensure we're sure to win this sort of game and without the requisite quality it will continue to be a regular struggle when we're in blippy and crisis periods. I can't say I was surprised hearing the result - more followed by...yeah, that makes sense really.

talking of MOTD, those ****s love it when we lose! Especially that big eared wanker Lineker!

[Kano]

everything on the left hand side of the team yesterday was absolutely terrible and swansea took full advantage. podolski couldn't be bothered to run, gibbs was a joke and verm just gets worse week on week.