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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    The midfield is all wrong.

    Individully, all three are excellent players, but it just doesn't work.
    Spot on. Its not a coincidence since Diaby has been out the midfield has been woeful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Spot on. Its not a coincidence since Diaby has been out the midfield has been woeful.
    He's not the answer either.

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    Fabregas was the loss that really pushed us down a level. A lot of others can be shifted aside in the 'replaceable' category. But Fabregas was probably the best midfielder outside Barcelona when we had him. Losing difference-makers like him and RVP in successive seasons was truly alwful. You can see the difference in the Champions League - home games we used to dominate and rack up good scores with Fabregas at the heart of it, we are now labouring and getting outplayed. The RVP factor was different but almost equally key, the way he was playing and the quality of goals he was scoring for most of last season was a godsend in an average team post-Fabregas.

    Santiago is lovely to watch but has a lot to prove. I think we know Podolski's game by now. Good finisher but that's about it. Olivier Sex has been #decent but look at the boots he is filling. The lack of quality matchwinners and difference-makers is clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    He's not the answer either.
    Never said he was

    So what is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Never said he was

    So what is?
    Sweeping changes. Fresh approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    Sweeping changes. Fresh approach.
    A new formation? Or Who'd you bring in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    A new formation? Or Who'd you bring in?
    Change everything. Players, coaches, the lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    Change everything. Players, coaches, the lot.
    Spot on you are. End of an Era, time for a new one. You know its bad when GP gets angry with the club.
    Last edited by Olivier's xmas twist; 02-12-2012 at 06:06 PM.
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    problem with cazorla is he's knackered. the guy has played pretty much every game for us this season. at some point he'll need a rest but he wont get it with the run of fixtures we have in december/january and the lack of adequate cover. he's playing poorly because he's a lion surrounded by cubs. he cant do all the work himself when he has crap like ramsey playing near him. put him in a midfield of scholes, carrick, kagawa or oscar, hazard, mata and you'll see how good he is. 1 player can't carry a whole midfield.

    squad depth exposed as early as november. that is shocking. what's worse is we could all see the diaby injury coming. the season derailed at that exact point and for £7m a year it shouldn't take a so-called genius to fail to predict it would have happened.

    its neglecting the sole responsibility a so-called manager is supposed to have. you are supposed to manage the squad and ensure depth, quality, motivation, determination are all covered. when you cant do this, you are breaching your responsibilities. that deserves a hearing. why can the board not see this? why has it got to this?

    conventional wisdom suggests jack shouldnt be playing as much as he is because he's coming back from a long term injury but we have no choice but to play him. its funny to see wenger retreating on the philosophies he built himself on. bringing on rosicky yesterday who hasnt played for 6 months when clearly the old wenger would have played him in the reserves a few times to build his fitness. risking jack in big games straight after a long term injury even though he needs to be slowly reintegrated. these are things wenger used to preach against doing but he is now doing out of pure desperation.

    we're another serious injury away from jack having his career cut short. it's risk management at its worse. and when cazorla breaks down due to fatigue what will we do then? recall denilson? Lol
    Last edited by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon; 02-12-2012 at 05:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner View Post
    problem with cazorla is he's knackered. the guy has played pretty much every game for us this season. at some point he'll need a rest but he wont get it with the run of fixtures we have in december/january and the lack of adequate cover. he's playing poorly because he's a lion surrounded by cubs. he cant do all the work himself when he has crap like ramsey playing near him. put him in a midfield of scholes, carrick, kagawa or oscar, hazard, mata and you'll see how good he is. 1 player can't carry a whole midfield.

    squad depth exposed as early as november. that is shocking. what's worse is we could all see the diaby injury coming. the season derailed at that exact point and for £7m a year it shouldn't take a so-called genius to fail to predict it would have happened.

    its neglecting the sole responsibility a so-called manager is supposed to have. you are supposed to manage the squad and ensure depth, quality, motivation, determination are all covered. when you cant do this, you are breaching your responsibilities. that deserves a hearing. why can the board not see this? why has it got to this?

    conventional wisdom suggests jack shouldnt be playing as much as he is because he's coming back from a long term injury but we have no choice but to play him. its funny to see wenger retreating on the philosophies he built himself on. bringing on rosicky yesterday who hasnt played for 6 months when clearly the old wenger would have played him in the reserves a few times to build his fitness. risking jack in big games straight after a long term injury even though he needs to be slowly reintegrated. these are things wenger used to preach against doing but he is now doing out of pure desperation.

    we're another serious injury away from jack having his career cut short. it's risk management at its worse. and when cazorla breaks down due to fatigue what will we do then? recall denilson? Lol.
    Denilson

    The rest of your post hit the nail on the head. The sqaud is too light and we knew we get bad injurys each season and still nout is sorted.
    Last edited by Olivier's xmas twist; 02-12-2012 at 05:55 PM.
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