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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    You (the fans) putting money into the shareholders pockets is bad for the club, that's what allows them to treat the fans with contempt and get away with all the things they get away with. Until they realise it's not a gravy train they can just take for granted nothing will change.

    Whether you like it or not that's the reality.
    No its the fans who buy season tickets year upon year cause they can and don't turn up to game every week who are bad. Its the fans (prawn sandwhich brigade) who just go there cause its like a nice day out for them.

    Fans like GB and WW and Ach, go because they love the club, they go because they have seen some amazing times at the ground. They don't go because they believe in what the club is doing. I agree fans need to make a stand, but ours love this club too much do do that. Which is where some get sucked in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    You (the fans) putting money into the shareholders pockets is bad for the club, that's what allows them to treat the fans with contempt and get away with all the things they get away with. Until they realise it's not a gravy train they can just take for granted nothing will change.

    Whether you like it or not that's the reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    You (the fans) putting money into the shareholders pockets is bad for the club, that's what allows them to treat the fans with contempt and get away with all the things they get away with. Until they realise it's not a gravy train they can just take for granted nothing will change.

    Whether you like it or not that's the reality.
    The reality is I am an Arsenal fan through good and bad - I may go less as a form of protest, but I'll never stop completely. Unless you are someone who lives trhe matchday experience, you'll never know or be able to comment on what it means. Through Arsenal, I've had some of the most enjoyable days of my life - experiences I'll take to my grave. I've met wonderful friends and share great times with them - now I share these times with my son and even in recent years the vast majority of matchdays have been positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    No its the fans who buy season tickets year upon year cause they can and don't turn up to game every week who are bad. Its the fans (prawn sandwhich brigade) who just go there cause its like a nice day out for them.

    Fans like GB and WW and Ach, go because they love the club, they go because they have seen some amazing times at the ground. They don't go because they believe in what the club is doing. I agree fans need to make a stand, but ours love this club too much do do that. Which is where some get sucked in.
    It's all the same in the end, it's money in their pockets, they don't care how it gets there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Injury Time View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    The reality is I am an Arsenal fan through good and bad - I may go less as a form of protest, but I'll never stop completely. Unless you are someone who lives trhe matchday experience, you'll never know or be able to comment on what it means. Through Arsenal, I've had some of the most enjoyable days of my life - experiences I'll take to my grave. I've met wonderful friends and share great times with them - now I share these times with my son and even in recent years the vast majority of matchdays have been positive.
    You can meet wonderful friends anywhere to be honest, just because you've met some through football it doesn't make them any different to meeting friends in other ways.

    If you're getting what you want out of this that's fair enough, clearly you've had some great times (again those who don't watch football would say they've had some of the best times doing something else) but it then surely means you're getting what you want and it isn't so much about the club (which is fine too), the truth is though that until the money stops rolling in for them they'll take all of this for granted an never have any interest in the fans concerns.

    I don't have a problem with the through thick and thin approach, this is however slightly different for me, it's basically money men doing whatever they want with no repercussions, this isn't the old we're going through bad times on the pitch issue, it's to do with people who don't give a sh*t about what happens on the pitch...it's not football.

    I supported Arsenal through the Graham days and we had some bad times too, but that never bothered me, I really enjoyed that period (despite what some might say) you win some you lose some.....what does is people taking the p*ss and not giving a damn about football or the fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    It's all the same in the end, it's money in their pockets, they don't care how it gets there.
    Not saying they don't care how it gets there. Im saying not all fans go because they love the club or are passionate. Some see it as a day out. Some have season tickets but won't even go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Fans like GB and WW and Ach, go because they love the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    You can meet wonderful friends anywhere to be honest, just because you've met some through football it doesn't make them any different to meeting friends in other ways.

    If you're getting what you want out of this that's fair enough, clearly you've had some great times (again those who don't watch football would say they've had some of the best times doing something else) but it then surely means you're getting what you want and it isn't so much about the club (which is fine too), the truth is though that until the money stops rolling in for them they'll take all of this for granted an never have any interest in the fans concerns.

    I don't have a problem with the through thick and thin approach, this is however slightly different for me, it's basically money men doing whatever they want with no repercussions, this isn't the old we're going through bad times on the pitch issue, it's to do with people who don't give a sh*t about what happens on the pitch...it's not football.

    I supported Arsenal through the Graham days and we had some bad times too, but that never bothered me, you win some you lose some.....what does is people taking the p*ss and not giving a damn about football or the fans.
    Like I said, if you don't go, you won't understand. Through Arsenal, I've met and become friends with people from backgrounds so varied that I never otherwise would have - and really it is that that is worth more than any trophy the Club will ever win.

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