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Thread: Wenger's legacy - has it held us back

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    Quote Originally Posted by gooners View Post
    tt,

    if you were able to buy arsenal and you did, and you had so much money to burn, what would you do?
    do about what, i don't understand the full extent of your question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    A circus, debatable but even if that is true Chelsea fans have seen unparalled success under him, winning the biggest trophies and seeing the best players at the club.

    What have we seen? I'll tell you, sales of our best players, cheap replacements, the highest ticket prices, a manager who can do whatever he likes with no repercussions and not even a tin pot trophy to collect our tears in.

    Would Chelsea swap the last 7 years with ours, I think not, as I said they've even won the CL which we've never managed which in theory elevates them above us in Europe.
    if it meant following the same ludicrous route where a new manager is booed in his first game, following the sacking of a manger who became the first EVER manager to win the CL in London, then no thanks, i'll stick with our lot.

    at least we don't have to be scared of an owner who may pull the plug any minute if we piss him off. which speaks volumes about chelsea. at least we can all stand tall if things continue, in the knowledge they we didn't have to bend down and suck off our owner just to keep him happy incase he detonates the club after too much complaining from the fans. dignity counts for more than any trophy - and it lasts far longer. i'm not that desperate for a trophy and it's a shame that you are.

    things are not great for us at all but we are not some billionaires play thing who hires and fires like an xbox game, making a mockery of the club and the english game.

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    The Russian does not accept failure. That should be admired. He wants his team to be the best and will do it by any means necessary. Was the sacking of RDM harsh? Yes maybe but winning the CL was last season, this season RDM has taken his team to the verge of CL elimination in the group stage and are out of the title race. For the money he spent, that is unacceptable and Roman got rid. Roman or a billionaire like him is a massive MUst Get. Anyone who would rather we stay in the mediocrity we are in now need to take a hard long look at themselves. Football has moved on to an era of billionaires. Time we did as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    I don't think we want to be best, not really. Sure if was handed to us on a plate we'd be happy with it but we won't work for it.

    It's like saying you want to win choosing your numbers but not buying the ticket, or you want to be the best tennis player in the world but don't want to practice......not gonna happen.

    Actions speak louder than words my friend.
    I never said we want to be the best, i said its what they say. Its an example.
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    "Which Arsenal do they want back, the one Arsene created?" - Tony Adams.

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    @cripps

    of course but it doesn't make any of that right. their club is descending into farce and it is an accusation that can no longer be dismissed as bitterness from rival fans because of the reaction from the chelsea fans recently. they realise themselves that they look like a complete joke. yet do they have the balls to criticise the man who is undermining them? no, they take it out on the man supposed to be leading their team on the pitch. the revolving door they were all so blasé about for years has finally come full circle to smack them on the arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    do about what, i don't understand the full extent of your question?
    I think he's saying 'Would you continue to ruin football the way Chelsea have done?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cripps View Post
    The Russian does not accept failure. That should be admired. He wants his team to be the best and will do it by any means necessary. Was the sacking of RDM harsh? Yes maybe but winning the CL was last season, this season RDM has taken his team to the verge of CL elimination in the group stage and are out of the title race. For the money he spent, that is unacceptable and Roman got rid. Roman or a billionaire like him is a massive MUst Get. Anyone who would rather we stay in the mediocrity we are in now need to take a hard long look at themselves. Football has moved on to an era of billionaires. Time we did as well.
    There are better owners out there and ones who'd spend money too. find it funny, you and zimm were pretty much licking Robbie'd dick last season and now its ok cause he had not done well in 3 months, get a grip.

    If you believe he was sacked becasuse of where they are then more fool you. He was clearly sacked because he would not play Torres like the owner wanted. Spend £50 mill on the guy, but does not want to admit he got it wrong there, when everyone can see it.

    Same way Jose left cause he did not play the lad from Ukraine. No way Jose wanted to leave Chavs not for Roman he'd have stayed.

    You can't compare all Russians. Usmanov said that he'd keep Aw on if he took control, so much for not accepting failure.

    Problem with Roman he appoints manager's then Undermines them when it suits him, so of course managers their will loose the dressing room when the owner shows no support when he gets pissed off, cause gets proved wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    I think he's saying 'Would you continue to ruin football the way Chelsea have done?'
    i'd give it my best shot, why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    i'd give it my best shot, why not?
    If you can't beat them, use crime and corruption, leaving your own people in poverty to join them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    If you can't beat them, use crime and corruption, leaving your own people in poverty to join them.
    Well the season ticket prices are a good start...
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