Wenger's legacy - has it held us back

[gooners]

as we weren't selling off our best players for the balance sheet, then we wouldn't need to go barmy, no.

unless the club was a middle of the road one to begin with (i.e. chelsea pre-abramovich)

i doubt abramovich would find the need to splash around so much if he were to acquire barcelona in it's current incarnation.

[Kano]

ah, you moved it from us to a pre-abramovich chelsea i see, fair enough. just give us a heads up next time.

[Cripps_orig]

@crippsof course but it doesn't make any of that right. their club is descending into farce and it is an accusation that can no longer be dismissed as bitterness from rival fans because of the reaction from the chelsea fans recently. they realise themselves that they look like a complete joke. yet do they have the balls to criticise the man who is undermining them? no, they take it out on the man supposed to be leading their team on the pitch. the revolving door they were all so blasé about for years has finally come full circle to smack them on the arse.

Is it wrong? Probably. I aint going to disagree with you on that but I don't think what we are doing is right either so we have 2 clubs doing 2 things that isn't right. Unfortunately we picked the wrong one. Football isn't this perfect sport where everything is right. You move and adapt as the game does. Wenger hasn't and he's been a laughing stock cos of it. I don't watch Chelsea matches but I heard Roman did get some stick V West Ham. Chants of "is this what you want?" were directed to him apparently. As for Rafa, for all the shit he said about Chelsea when at Liverpool, its understandable. Plus he's a shit manager. Most if not all true gooners would be the fuck out of Pep if he came to us and rightly so so we aren't so different to the Chavs. Just better looking

[Olivier's xmas twist]

despite abramovich's money, I am sure chelsea fans still pay handsomely to watch their team --- they are therefore allowed to boo a manager that is falling short of an extremely high standard.

and i suppose while 7 yrs is enough for some, one game suffices for others

Then they should boo the guy who put him there. This guy insulted their club he was hardly going to be a hit with the fans. Not that Roman gave a shit what the fans thought.

[Kano]

Is it wrong? Probably. I aint going to disagree with you on that but I don't think what we are doing is right either so we have 2 clubs doing 2 things that isn't right. Unfortunately we picked the wrong one. Football isn't this perfect sport where everything is right. You move and adapt as the game does. Wenger hasn't and he's been a laughing stock cos of it. I don't watch Chelsea matches but I heard Roman did get some stick V West Ham. Chants of "is this what you want?" were directed to him apparently. As for Rafa, for all the shit he said about Chelsea when at Liverpool, its understandable. Plus he's a shit manager. Most if not all true gooners would be the fuck out of Pep if he came to us and rightly so so we aren't so different to the Chavs. Just better looking

(this really is my last post in here on this)

if the recent events at chelsea - not just the sacking but more so the fans reaction - then fair enough, that is the way the game is going and we either get with it or die out. its up to us as fans if we wanna sign up for that or not.

i'm not even sold on the idea that money guarantee's you success. of course it bloody well makes it easier but i also want to credit the players and their management for doing so. at chelsea and city i can't knock the players work ethic or any of the managers that have lifted a trophy - winning requires more than just money and success comes from hard graft.

so i'm not railing against the money issues but the demand for instant return is always there and if you keep changing the formula with a new manager every single time, then at some point, it will not work out. its just the same as hiring a manager on a long term basis, as that unknown factor is always there but at least with the long route you give yourself room in the playing field for alternatives if things do not work out. how long before chelsea run out of 'top tier' managers through having employed them all or scared the rest away? it sounds ludicrous but look at it, is it really so far away? chelsea fans are becoming fed up of being seen as the ****s of the game, yet have trapped themselves into watching their own team become a toy.

[Xhaka Can’t]

No they would not. Any gooner that did that would need to stop watching footie for good.

He means Madrid supporters.

Kind of how you'd feel if Redknapp came in to manage your Club.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He means Madrid supporters.

Kind of how you'd feel if Redknapp came in to manage your Club.

Most if not all true gooners would be the fuck out of Pep if he came to us

Unless he means if Rafa came to us, or he means we'd boo Pep.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Another thread veering off for no reason. Keep it civil guys.

[StamfordBrdige]

Don't make me laugh, they sign top players are higher in the league and have won stuff in the last 7 years including the CL.

There's no way in hell they'd swap with us, we're lying 10th and barely spend a penny.

It's actually not that straightforward Zimm.

This is my lowest point as a Chelsea fan (since 96). I guess i'd be super facking pissed off if i was an arsenal fan however Roman has really gone over and beyond with the recent situation. I've never known Chelsea fans to be this pissed off and to not give a fuck.

For the 1st time since he got here a few fans are now saying that he should get the hell out of the club and i can see where they are coming from.

The problem with the arsenal & chelsea situation is that we as fans aren't going anywhere. Like Letters said, it's not like switching from ASDA to Tesco or something. Until we get a german style 50+1 club ownership thing going on this kind of stuff can and will happen.

To answer the question, would i swap with you guys. I suppose not however that's not really saying much as both options really suck.

My hope is that Jose wins La Liga (i don't like Barcelona), leaves Real Madrid and returns to the bridge at the end of the season. Hopefully this time Roman will get the fuck out the way and fucking let him manage the damn team.

[StamfordBrdige]

i think they'd take wenger over rafa.

Not sure i would TBH. He'd drive the bridge mad with some of his decisions and continous talk of sharpness, spirit + 4th being a trophy and all that.

Fuck it, just bring in Moyes and have done with it.