Are we partially responsible for the rise of the Billionaire owners?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Charlie the Sycophant.

Pretty much.

[Letters]

You're right that from a purely self interested viewpoint the decisions the board took are entirely "rational". This is why I said the constant criticisms of the Noveau Rich clubs and accusations that they've ruined football don't stand up, if you consider a longer timeframe than simply post 2003 (when Abramovich took over). Everyone in the top level of football has to take responsibility, because although it was individually rational to create the Premier League for the big clubs, from the viewpoint of football itself, it was the wrong move. In the same way that although the Oligarch financed model may benefit individual clubs, in the long run football will suffer.

You can't blame Arsenal (or any big club) for pushing for the PL
You can't really blame Chelsea or City for operating the way they do - it's morally repugnant (IMO in a different way to big clubs whose status has been earned by previous success) but if it's within the rules and the billionaires want to play then you can't blame the club for doing it. There's no other way to progress in the modern game.

None of this is the clubs' fault, surely the finger should be pointed at bodies like the FA and UEFA who have sat back and let football get like this. You can't trust clubs to self regulate, someone above the clubs has to stop these sorts of things happening. And they haven't.

[Power n Glory]

I think Joker is getting at something here. In general, I think most of us have a problem with the way clubs are run and the way football is in general and where it’s gone. It’s over dependent on transfers and teams acquiring the best players from other teams. We’ve had our hand to play in the system because Wenger was one of the first to start bringing in talented players from overseas. We helped pave the way for foreign players and coaches over here and as a result, other clubs have adopted our methods and it’s now become a scramble for who can acquire who from where. Obviously, it costs money to buy players and as a result we’re now seeing clubs get into deep financial trouble and needing a overseas investors to bail them out.

We’ve made a major change in our policy over the years and we’re now about developing players, but other clubs haven’ adopted that model. We’re calling for the FFP rules to be enforced but as one of the pundits said on Sunday Supplement, that’s a cartel and keeps the rich rich and poor poor. There isn’t an easy solution to this. I’ve always admired the American sports system, even though not perfect, the wage cap and draft system means even the lower teams get a crack at holding some of the best talent coming through the college system. I also admire the fact that the coach in American sports has a major role to play in the team and has to squeeze the best out of his team and has to apply all his tactical knowledge to get results. We’re just not seeing that in football these days because it boils down to coaches just buying up the best talent. It’s why so many coaches in England are poor because they rely heavily on transfers and not development and tactics.

[fakeyank]

I think Joker is getting at something here. In general, I think most of us have a problem with the way clubs are run and the way football is in general and where it’s gone. It’s over dependent on transfers and teams acquiring the best players from other teams. We’ve had our hand to play in the system because Wenger was one of the first to start bringing in talented players from overseas. We helped pave the way for foreign players and coaches over here and as a result, other clubs have adopted our methods and it’s now become a scramble for who can acquire who from where. Obviously, it costs money to buy players and as a result we’re now seeing clubs get into deep financial trouble and needing a overseas investors to bail them out.

We’ve made a major change in our policy over the years and we’re now about developing players, but other clubs haven’ adopted that model. We’re calling for the FFP rules to be enforced but as one of the pundits said on Sunday Supplement, that’s a cartel and keeps the rich rich and poor poor. There isn’t an easy solution to this. I’ve always admired the American sports system, even though not perfect, the wage cap and draft system means even the lower teams get a crack at holding some of the best talent coming through the college system. I also admire the fact that the coach in American sports has a major role to play in the team and has to squeeze the best out of his team and has to apply all his tactical knowledge to get results. We’re just not seeing that in football these days because it boils down to coaches just buying up the best talent. It’s why so many coaches in England are poor because they rely heavily on transfers and not development and tactics.

America

[Xhaka Can’t]

America

They're also fat.

[KSE Comedy Club]

To the op.

No, no we're not.

It's the FA, UEFA, etc that allow these billionaires to buy clubs then piss their millions away buying whoever they want for huge sums and then writing them off the next season if they're no good, without any financial constraints.

/thread.

[GP]

To the op.

No, no we're not.

It's the FA, UEFA, etc that allow these billionaires to buy clubs then piss their millions away buying whoever they want for huge sums and then writing them off the next season if they're no good, without any financial constraints.

/thread.

Indeed.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

its ramseys fault.