Absolutely and believe me hes never been good, dont listen to these "its just bad form" types.

In his first season here we conceded a record number of goals. People tried to put it all on the midfield but this guy is thick as fack.

Ajax eventually shunted him to left back just to get him out the way he was so poor. If you remember back the ajax fans were delighted with the deal.

hes always got bitched by decent forwards but what he did against no paced championship player taraabt when he got too tight and lunged in when there was no threat of him doing shyt thus giving him the pathway to turn and finish would have been the last straw for a ruthless manager, ours went and gave him the captaincy.

He is the most overrated defender in britain today. Welcome to reality.