Vermaelen is a terrible defender

[Olivier's xmas twist]

clichy was shit for us and decent for city.

you dont play in a league winning team if you're shit.

Its easy to be shit, when you have top players with you. City did not win the league cause Clichy was good, they won it cause they had a good attack.

You won't notice how poor he is till games like saturday, when the team is struggling.

[SayNoMore]

Its easy to be shit, when you have top players with you. City did not win the league cause Clichy was good, they won it cause they had a good attack.

You won't notice how poor he is till games like saturday, when the team is struggling.

Pretty much, still a shocking player.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Pretty much, still a shocking player.

Yep, yep yep. Looks ok, when playing the Wigans etc. Even then you see mistakes but not as much as when he plays the big boys.

[fakeyank]

Yep, yep yep. Looks ok, when playing our direct rivals like Wigan, Reading. Even then you see mistakes but not as much as when he plays the big boys.

Just corrected your little mistake

[Mr. Lahey]

he has been awful this season, in fact he was never really that good to begin with. another hyped up arsenal player who is only so because he can run up and down the pitch really fast. ok maybe im being harsh but he is an average defender who should not be starting for us thats for sure.

[BOBN]

no he isnt.

hes a top defender.

a top defender managed by a clueless idiot.

clichy shite here, goes city and becomes consistent.

i thought toure was quality against united. towards the end of his spell he was abysmal here.

there is definetly something in these rift rumours regarding bould and wenger. all over the press today. no smoke without fire and that.

at the beginning of the season we looked brilliant defensively. midfield tracked back and helped out, defence worked as a unit. ever since wenger was asked about bould post liverpool match and he replied with something along the lines of: 'actually it is the work of everyone. you cannot praise just one individual. we have all been working together' its gone completely downhill.

as mentioned on a blog i read this morning, what does a control freak do when he's under pressure? he tightens his grip.

he's blind to the obvious.

he used to tell henry to cut inside and look for the top corner of the goal. henry did it. he tells the same to gervinho and it goes into row z. he used to tell pires to switch flanks and take the defender on. he did it. he tells arshavin the same and he loses the ball. he used to play edu on the right of midfield to squeeze the opposition and we used to win games. he does the same with ramsey and we end up losing.

wenger doesnt understand whats going wrong and he doesnt understand why players dont respond to him anymore. he's blind to the obvious. he doesnt want to give up because he believes he can turn it around.

well you cant. so please piss off.

A £10m defender shouldnt need telling what to do. we paid finished article money for a man-child fraud.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

thats a lie and you know it. we didnt pay £10m for a 'finished article'. nowhere near a finished article.

[BOBN]

£10m odd is the top rate in this day and age for a defender, they aint going for £30m anymore.

how much do you suggest we'd need to pay for a finished article CB (from abroad)? Kompany cost, 6, Vidic 6. weve been had.

[DJ Philosophe]

His lack of positional discipline for a 27 year old scares me, I've seen 16 year olds here in the US with better tactical awareness. He's too much of the eager beaver always trying to nick in and win the ball so he can dribble forward. Patience is a crucial part of defending....there are two words he needs to learn and study. CONTAIN and JOCKEY. This goes for a few others at AFC who are notorious "stabbers" at the ball when defending....hey Arteta I'm talking to you pretty boy! It's so easy to attack against and makes League 2 sides look like EPL teams when a simple feint can unlock our supposed best central defender or our holding mid.

Surely Wenger and Bould have to see this in training and address it RIGHT....

Aerially he seems to have better timing for headers when attacking than defending....maybe his depth perception is off when the ball is kicked for a punt....

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

£10m odd is the top rate in this day and age for a defender, they aint going for £30m anymore.

how much do you suggest we'd need to pay for a finished article CB (from abroad)? Kompany cost, 6, Vidic 6. weve been had.

im not on about price.

price does not dictate finished article.

ox was £10m. was he the finished article?

if you're seriously suggesting we bought vermaelen and he was the finished article at the age of 24 then dont bother replying.

there's no sense in the deluded.