Former Players Views

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Saying Robson is wrong about Theo which he clearly is as Theo is obviously a good player doesn't make me or anyone a Theo lover. Saying Robson is speaking BS about Wenger when its clear he's spot on makes you a Wenger lover. Can you see the difference?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Jesus wept.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Saying Robson is wrong about Theo which he clearly is as Theo is obviously a good player doesn't make me or anyone a Theo lover. Saying Robson is speaking BS about Wenger when its clear he's spot on makes you a Wenger lover. Can you see the difference?

I never Said that so stop chatting shit.

Goal.com, its all made up BS tbh. Robson is a **** but he some of the things he says may be bitter but have truth to it.

[Power n Glory]

unlike Liverpool and Brendan Rodgers we (quite rightly so) have a closed ranks policy on what goes on in the dressing room and on the training ground.
Really depends which way you look at it, is Wenger a particurlarly a good delegator?......no i don't imagine he is.....the chief executive of the club was pretty much vetted by him which suggests he does wield too much influence on the club for a manager. However is he dictatorial in his approach?....No i don't think so, I don't imagine for a moment he refuses to listen to people or tries to have someone sacked for questioning his approach and I imagine he is probably quite prepared to listen to advice.....but there is a difference to listening to advice and taking it and that for me is certainly what he does not do.
Arsene Wenger doesn't strike me as an abrasive or ignorant person who dismisses any view point that's not his own, but I imagine he is of the mindset that "You may have a valid point but for better or worse I must stick to my principles", and i think he has become firmly entrenched in these principles of doing things in a certain way which i think he does with the best intentions but unfortunately it makes him seem stubborn and inflexible.
I think Dictator is though a term that does not apply to Arsene Wenger, yes he has far too much power and influence than any one man should have at the club but I think he almost sees this more as akin to being like Atlas he has been ceded this responsibility by disorganisation and disarray at the top with the departues of the likes of Edelman and Dein and i think he would look upon it as a personal failure to give up these responsibilities.....

You see another side of Wenger when someone directly challenges. Look at the press reactions and how agrressive and stubborn he can be. I think he's a calm person in general but very dismissive if directly challenged. For example, I just can't understand why he's so reluctant to try Theo or Podolski in the centre but happy to try Gervinho there.

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You see another side of Wenger when someone directly challenges. Look at the press reactions and how agrressive and stubborn he can be. I think he's a calm person in general but very dismissive if directly challenged. For example, I just can't understand why he's so reluctant to try Theo or Podolski in the centre but happy to try Gervinho there.

I don't necessarily agree with that, i think his press reactions are much more calm and measured than most other premiership managers. And to be fair there is a difference between offering advice and trying to cajole someone like the press do....like when they were asking about the subsitutions against Aston Villa, rightly so he made the point when does a manager have to justify his decisions to anyone....the fans have the right to criticise......but the manager doesn't have to explain himself to them or the press.
Don't get me wrong i am not a Wenger apologist, i think the guy has got himself into a rut and frankly I am not sure even how happy he is at the club anymore....but i still think deep down even if horribly twisted and misguided this man does seem himself as a man of principle and integrity and walking away would be a betrayal of what he believes in, but as i firmly believe he will do what he regards to be the right thing and see out his contract and leave in 2014 unless he is told beforehand that his services are no longer required and can you honestly see that happening?.

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EMMANUEL PETIT claims top stars will no longer want to join Arsenal — because the club never wins anything.
The former France midfielder, who won the Double with the Gunners in 1998, believes the North London club is now seen as a stepping stone to bigger things.
Arsene Wenger’s side have not won a trophy since lifting the FA Cup in 2005.
And Petit, 42, who spent three years at Arsenal before moving to Barcelona in 2000, said: “The big worry today is that even if Arsenal have the money who are they going to get to join the club now?
“The idea they have been giving off for seven years is that it’s a club which doesn’t win trophies and at the end of the season their best players will leave.
“The feeling is that Arsenal are creating a generation of players who will leave in the hope of going to another club in order to win something.”
Petit, however, is still backing boss Wenger to get the club out of this mess.
He says the Gunners have been unable to compete in the transfer market as the club funded its move from Highbury to the Emirates in 2006.
And Petit insists now those economic constraints have been loosened boss Wenger can put the club on a more equal footing with its rivals.
He said: “I’m still convinced Wenger’s the man for the job because over the last 15 years he has been a master-builder.
“He hasn’t won anything for seven years because since the club moved to the Emirates they’ve had to tighten their belts and sell their best players all the time.
“They also couldn’t get involved in overbidding in the transfer market.
“But now they have a fairly big surplus and so can compete again.”


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz2F2gIX6ym

Hes right in that no top players will come to us but woefully wrong about the rest

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GEORGE GRAHAM admits he cannot see Arsenal EVER winning the title again.
The Highbury legend believes his old club have fallen too far behind their big-spending rivals.
And he claims his once-great Gunners are now happy to just settle for finishing fourth every season.
Graham — who won three titles with the club as a player and manager — delivered his damning verdict at the end of a disastrous week for the fallen North London giants.
Current boss Arsene Wenger and his stars are licking their wounds after being knocked out of the Capital One Cup quarter-finals on Tuesday by League Two Bradford.
It is now getting on for eight years since Wenger won a trophy and almost nine since he last lifted the Premier League crown.
Graham said: “Whether I like it or not, the club are quite happy to finish in the top four.
“They have been doing that for the last 15 or 16 years. That seems to be the objective.
“Let’s be honest, they are not serious challengers for the Premier League. So finishing in the top four, I think the club are quite happy with that.
“I don’t think Arsenal are ever going to compete with Manchester City, Chelsea and Manchester United.
“I thought they could have competed with United because they don’t spend the money the other two do.
“But Arsenal are not going to compete with them either.
“They have got a structure at the club on transfers and wages. They are very strict on those.
“They have more or less said to fans that is the way they are going to run the club.
“They can still pick up cups and qualify for Europe. But will they win the Premier League title again? I can’t see it.”
Graham was in the Arsenal team that won the Double in 1971. As manager he celebrated titles in 1989 and 1991.
Wenger took over as manager in 1996 and guided them to the Double in 1998 and 2002 as well as a further Prem crown in 2004.
But the trophy cabinet has remained unopened since he led Arsenal to a shootout win over Manchester United in the 2005 FA Cup Final.
Wenger’s prudence may have enabled the Gunners to build a new stadium and state-of-the-art training complex.
But an increasing number of Arsenal fans are becoming fed up with their club’s failure to win a trophy and keep hold of their best players.
Graham added: “When was the last time Arsenal broke the transfer record? I think it was 1938.
“Manchester United seem to buy players at £25-30million and they mix it up a little bit.But Arsenal don’t do that.
“In the past Arsene’s teams have played some of the best football I have ever seen. It was breathtaking.
“But the quality of players there now is inferior to the players he used to have.
“And I don’t care how good a coach or manager you are, you need good players to win things.”


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz2F2h89ykp

Come back George. All is forgiven

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Come back George. All is forgiven

So he can't see us winning the title ever again. So he is giving us no chance whoever the manager is.

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ARSENAL legend Nigel Winterburn has revealed Arsene Wenger will not spend the big bucks — as the club cannot afford it.
The under-pressure Gunners board are suggesting that £50MILLION is to be made available in January.
And they say manager Wenger will be able to spend it all on one player if he wants.
But that is not what Winterburn says he heard at the Emirates recently.
The former left-back, who won the Double under Wenger in 1998, said: “I was with Arsene three or four weeks ago doing a Q&A at Arsenal and he was asked about buying a £30m player.
“He was saying ‘We can’t afford to do that’. That surprised me a little bit.
“He was saying ‘£30m in transfer fees, with wages you’re probably looking at another £25-30m. We could not compete on that level’.”
But Winterburn, who played 584 Arsenal games between 1987 and 2000, is convinced no top players want to join now anyway.
He said: “If you are talking about a £30m player — Manchester City would also be going for him, maybe Manchester United and maybe Chelsea.
“Right now he’s not coming to Arsenal.”

Former England defender Winterburn is convinced that Robin van Persie’s decision to join Manchester United in the summer sent out a warning.
He said: “Why are the players saying ‘You know what? I’m going to wait until my contract runs out and see what happens?’
“Arsene Wenger would tell you they are not trying to sign those players too late and that negotiations start with two years to go.
“But maybe they need to start even earlier.”
Winterburn also warned the Arsenal board they were sitting on a powder-keg — and the fuse has been burning for a while.
He said: “The frustration is not just about this season but from the last two or three seasons.
“The vision that they were sold when they moved to the Emirates was that they had to move there to compete with the top teams.
“A lot of the supporters are feeling that we are now slipping even further behind those teams.
“Why are the top players leaving? Is it because those top players believe we are not moving in the right direction?
“Is it because the people at the top are not able to secure the services of the very top players?
“It is becoming so frustrating for those supporters. And more than a few are starting to feel that Arsene Wenger will not change his ways and maybe it is Arsene Wenger.
“They have quality players and they have to stand up and be counted as they are starting to be questioned as much as Wenger — and the board as well.
“Arsenal have not won anything for seven years now — and they really are under pressure.”


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz2F2hbeiLk

We cant afford £30m on one player? Wtf? Whats the point of moving to the new stadium then?

[Cripps_orig]

So he can't see us winning the title ever again. So he is giving us no chance whoever the manager is.

Pretty much

That is what Wenger has done to us