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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivier's xmas twist View Post
    Pretty much, say we play shit and boring, but still watch the next game you could not make this shit up.
    Eh that's because we're Arsenal fans, we'll continue watching games no matter how badly we're playing or which division we're in. Saying that we're not playing well is simply a statement of fact, it doesn't make someone a Man City supporter or a WUM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry Chrizimas View Post
    Question is which scenario do people prefer:

    1) A few fortunate wins leading to no real signings in January
    2) Getting deserved results and signings in January

    I'd like to see results and signings but IMO it won't happen because Wenger will point to the fact we're 3rd/4th as vindication of our quality.

    I want to see us improve and that's only going to happen by bringing in quality players IMO.
    Want the team to win thats what its about, anyone who wants this team to lose is either a moron or a wum or not a Arsenal suporter.
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    "Which Arsenal do they want back, the one Arsene created?" - Tony Adams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivier's xmas twist View Post
    If your happy for the club to lose then your a moron.
    That wasn't the question and anyone that thinks it was is the moron not me.

    Just seems to me you don't really want to see changes, whilst you say you do the other stuff you post contradicts this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivier's xmas twist View Post
    If your happy for the club to lose then your a moron.
    Where did he say that?

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    The key is consistency. It's what we lack and it's great getting 3 points but we need to have a consistent desire to win and prove a point. Some players were coasting today and didn't take authority compared to what was shown last week. That will always be a worry. What changed over the past few days to make them think we're in the clear and the hard work is over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry Chrizimas View Post
    That wasn't the question and anyone that thinks it was is the moron not me.

    Just seems to me you don't really want to see changes, whilst you say you do the other stuff you post contradicts this.
    It's getting a bit tiresome that anyone who makes even a slightly negative point about our performances is being labelled a WUM or an Arsenal hater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry Chrizimas View Post
    That wasn't the question and anyone that thinks it was is the moron not me.

    Just seems to me you don't really want to see changes, whilst you say you do the other stuff you post contradicts this.
    Of course i want to see changes, don't mean i want the team to lose to get it. End of the day results are results deserved or not.

    If Wenger as you say will be happy then it won't matter if we deserved to win or not he will still do what he wants.
    "I really like Arsenal. Do you really like Arsenal, or only Arsenal with trophies?" - Dennis Bergkamp.
    "Which Arsenal do they want back, the one Arsene created?" - Tony Adams.

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    We were crap but we won so good because I still want us to qualify for CLnext season. However, nothing has changed.Nobody has been vindicated oneither side by this game. This season becoming a mirror image of the last and the one before....etc. says only that we are not going anywhere again. Out of all competitions by march and nothing to look forward to except a similar feeling of frustration at the end of May.

    i just hope this game puts an end the the Walcott is a striker charade. he is clearly no striker, except maybe for Brentwood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    It's getting a bit tiresome that anyone who makes even a slightly negative point about our performances is being labelled a WUM or an Arsenal hater.
    Totally agree, I'm not convinced some of the people that do that really want to see changes as the club, they just feel they have to agree with everyone else as it's not a popular choice to disagree.

    The performance matters as it reflects where we are as a team, if we were performing well for most of the season and winning you could say we don't need many changes, if our general play was good but we were not getting results then maybe a forward might be needed to put our chances away, if you're playing badly for most of the seasons but picking up the odd result here and there to keep you in 3rd/4th though, that simply masks the problems and leads to nothing changing, I don't think this is a healthy thing longer term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivier's xmas twist View Post
    Of course i want to see changes, don't mean i want the team to lose to get it. End of the day results are results deserved or not.

    If Wenger as you say will be happy then it won't matter if we deserved to win or not he will still do what he wants.
    If we get results nothing willl change, those are the facts, Wenger won't go out and sign players if we're lying 3rd....it's not his way.

    The only way we really are going to see changes is through poor results, if we play badly all the time but win or draw it really does us no favours because in reality it allows the club to sweep the problems under the carpet as they have been doing for years.

    If we were playing well and winning then fine (at least on the whole), but the fact is this season we have been largely awful so there are lots of problems with the team, problems that are likely to be ignored as it stands.

    Some quality players in January would have been good, it's looking highly unlikely now I'd say.

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