Can you quote the posts where they say that?Originally Posted by Cripps
I think we should be happy we're in 4th after the season we've had so far. Obviously that doesn't mean everything is great. I don't think either of them say that. You're deliberately skewing their posts to WUM.
The point is there's a feeling of real optimism now, which is strange considering two weeks ago it was like the end of the world, three wins against largely lowly or out of form opposition real don't change things that much and don't solve all the issues we've had for years, all they seem to do is mask our weaknesses.
It was looking like we might be active in January, but it's now looking less and less likely and that's a bad thing because clearly we're a long way from being good enough.
I don't think Cripps is on the Wum with this. Far worst culprits. It's a match reaction thread, we didn't play well but you'll see a few posters picking at other posters instead what happened in the match. That's how it's all started.
But isn't the season we've had so far basically due to poor management? So we should then settle for 4th now (and nothing else) because the manager can't do his job properly...every friggin season!
You can't use the "considering the season so far" excuse IMO because that's basically our own fault.
Exactly the same thing happens with Wenger incidentally, after a few wins he talks about our quality etc etc and at the end of the season he points to how well we did considering where we were or the great unbeaten run, gets tiresome after 7 years.
At what point does he accept responsibility for our poor runs or poor start and say we should have done better and really this season is disappointing because once again we lost a lot of games we shouldn't have.
That's what supporting a club is like. Had we lost to Spurs it would have been, we won so it was
I don't think ANYONE thinks or has posted that everything is suddenly great now, people are just pleased we've actually strung a few wins together. I couldn't give a monkeys how, as you often say football is about results.
Why does everything have to be so extreme? Just because people are a bit happier with things now that doesn't mean they think that everything is perfect. No-one has posted that.
There's some real Wums in this place that seem to get away scott-free.
According to the board, who are his employers, his job is to get us finishing top 4 every friggin season.
I'd say he's doing that job properly.
Wenger isn't getting sacked because of you moaning about him on the internet. As we said earlier in the thread it would only happen if there was a massive drop in ticket and merchandise sales. We agreed that's unlikely to happen so whaddaya do? Might as well get behind them and be happy when things are going a bit better. Doesn't mean I think everything is great.
The thing is though, we've been seeing the same pattern now for how many years? Don't people get bored of it as some stage and think you know what we've had a few wins but in the grand scheme of things it's been pretty poor this season and this changes very little.That's what supporting a club is like. Had we lost to Spurs it would have been
I don't think ANYONE thinks or has posted that everything is suddenly great now, people are just pleased we've actually strung a few wins together. I couldn't give a monkeys how, as you often say football is about results.
Why does everything have to be so extreme? Just because people are a bit happier with things now that doesn't mean they think that everything is perfect. No-one has posted that.
It's not extremism as such, it's just that some people think that just because we won the team is immune from criticism and that criticism is in fact moaning, it's not it's pointing out the reality.
We won a few games and that's great but we've seen this kind of thing happen pretty much every season and in the end little has changed even though some thought the manager had finally stood up and taken notice.
Last edited by Özim; 23-12-2012 at 12:40 PM.
Yeah and that's very sad because that's all we have to look forward to for the foreseeable future and tell me where is the joy in that? I want unpredictability, I don't want the same thing happening every season, it's just so dull it's like knowing the future, it takes the fun out of the present day events.According to the board, who are his employers, his job is to get us finishing top 4 every friggin season.
I'd say he's doing that job properly.
Wenger isn't getting sacked because of you moaning about him on the internet. As we said earlier in the thread it would only happen if there was a massive drop in ticket and merchandise sales. We agreed that's unlikely to happen so whaddaya do? Might as well get behind them and be happy when things are going a bit better
A few weeks ago there was real pressure on him and and that was great for a change because he was almost going to be forced to act, now withing three games it's all calmed down and we're back to normal.
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