What is stalling Theo??

[Letters]

No one is denying Jack is a good player and has the potential to be even better but at the moment, is he worth 85k a week? Forget about the real world cos no footballer is worth that. Lets stick to the footballing world and even then i wouldnt say hes worth that but yet hes been given that and we are haggling over Theos wages despite him being arguably more important to us in terms of goals and assists as they are undoubtedly the most important things in football.

As MO said, we have given Jack 85k a week for his potential but dont want to pay Theo for the here and now which is ludicrous.

Even in the football world I wouldn't give a 20 year old that kind of money. He certainly has the potential to be worth (well, in the football world) that but not yet, no.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

a club that offered djourou a 3 year bumper contract at 60k a week.

only at this club.

remember that.

then wonder why walcott is annoyed he's on less.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Don't wum cause it's not your style.

So after one season we're saying JW has earned to earn around the same amount it took players like Henry, RVP, Cesc some years to get to? It's not just goals and assists, if he could keep our play flowing like how Cesc could when he was much younger than Jack then I'd see your point. He's looking lost in the middle right now and hasn't controlled the tempo of a game.

Time will tell because he's coming back from injury but it's flawed to talk about consistency and top level performances when he's only played one full season for us and hasn't performed anywhere near the level of Cesc.

but you cant go comparing 10 years ago to now. football has changed and evolved. i agree that it is absolutely ridiculous football has ended up like this, but people cant berate the board for being backwards then on the other hand have a go at them for offering english talent like wilshere top money. its the going rate because as i said, he can get it elsewhere.

modern football is a load of shit.

[Cripps_orig]

Even in the football world I wouldn't give a 20 year old that kind of money. He certainly has the potential to be worth (well, in the football world) that but not yet, no.

Exactly and thats the problem

We are paying thousands a week which turns in to millions over the years to players who havent produced. What if god forbids Jack gets another injury? 85k a week for someone who isnt playing? And that isnt even my biggest worry.

My big worry is if he does fulfill his potential and the time comes to renew his contract, he will want double of what hes getting now which as we know, we wont pay so hes gone when hes around 25 and we are back to square one.

[Syn]

Don't wum cause it's not your style.

Im not wumming. If people cant think, it annoys me. Unless of course they are that stupid so forgive me if I've given you undue benefit of doubt.

So after one season we're saying JW has earned to earn around the same amount it took players like Henry, RVP, Cesc some years to get to? It's not just goals and assists, if he could keep our play flowing like how Cesc could when he was much younger than Jack then I'd see your point. He's looking lost in the middle right now and hasn't controlled the tempo of a game.

Think. The market is not what it was even 5 years ago. This is about Theo in comparison to Jack. And there is no comparison really. You would need eyes and a bit of a brain to know this.

Time will tell because he's coming back from injury but it's flawed to talk about consistency and top level performances when he's only played one full season for us and hasn't performed anywhere near the level of Cesc.

You pay players on the basis of what they will do, not what they have. You look at the past and you see Jack was phenomenal in his debut season being the stand out players among stars in the Arsenal-Barca games. You note it wasn't an anomaly. You then see if he will fully recover from his injury. He looks sharper by the game and he's playing consistently well in the same manor he did. Players that have his ability don't fuck about with the basics and Jack is not. He's worth every penny.

[AKBapologist]

Hang on, are we actually debating whether or not Jack's Pulling his weight in the current squad????

Potential my arse. Wilshire's become another player we've come to depend on after been gone for a year and only a handful of first team apperances. Even if he got no better than he is now, he's a better holding midfielder than most in the league barring a small handful of captains and specialists, half a dozen years older and on double the wages. WTF is wrong with GW???

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Funny people should be saying an obvious talent like Jack is being over-hyped, yet they are trying to present Theo as that player whose talent has been honed and developed and he has now arrived.

Subtract Theo's flurry of goals against total shit teams and then show me the stats. Spread his goals across a broader surface of games, and not just a deluge of goals in one or two games, and then present those stats.

I'll say again, that he's not as good as some would have us believe and I couldn't care less if he fucks off. I've had it with these average players thinking more of themselves than they really are, thereby holding the club to ransom the minute they start to show signs of doing what they have always been paid to do.

[Syn]

Funny people should be saying an obvious talent like Jack is being over-hyped, yet they are trying to present Theo as that player whose talent has been honed and developed and he has now arrived.

Subtract Theo's flurry of goals against total shit teams and then show me the stats. Spread his goals across a broader surface of games, and not just a deluge of goals in one or two games, and then present those stats.

I'll say again, that he's not as good as some would have us believe and I couldn't care less if he fucks off. I've had it with these average players thinking more of themselves than they really are, thereby holding the club to ransom the minute they start to show signs of doing what they have always been paid to do.

Well I would care if Theo fucks off. Theo gets goals. That's important even if that's all he gets. I'd be happy if we got him to sign at any expense. But don't just don't present Jack as a yardstick because he's much better at his job than Theo is at his; mainly because he has the natural talent that Theo never will.

[AKBapologist]

And there's the nonsense "Theo isn't a big game player" bullshit again.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Reading comprehension is a bitch, ain't it?